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May 2021
1:13pm, 14 May 2021
22,417 posts
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Dvorak
I hit my max hr using roughly J2R's method. Except my uphill was quite a bit longer so I'm happy I reached max, not near max  (I wasn't so happy at the time, I was lying down on a cold winter pavement. Maybe there's something to be said for not quite hitting max )
Well done CW, strong effort throughout, and a wee sprint to the line
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May 2021
11:08am, 23 May 2021
4,616 posts
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steve45
I must say that all the stuff written here is impressive and adds so much to my overall understanding of HR etc.
Heart rate and pace wise I'm still in the doldrums and maybe have to resign myself to the old age factor adversely affecting my performances ( in training, I don't race or do park runs). Things were ok seven years ago when I was 64 and I could pop along at a fair pace for me at c143 bpm. Over the last couple of years my fitness/HR hasn't been up to scratch despite generally maintaining 100 miles a month. At 143 now I'm simply finding it tough to maintain.
My rhr is 57 ( long standing) but my max HR (after test) is now 159 , some twelve beats slower than a few years ago. I've recently re introduced short intervals to my weekly schedule hoping that something improves.
Having run now for 42 years it's a pain in the *** to have to accept slowing down so much!
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May 2021
9:40am, 24 May 2021
4,619 posts
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steve45
Of course I meant : maintaining a good pace at 143 bpm...
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May 2021
9:58am, 24 May 2021
1,815 posts
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Brunski
143 of 159 is around 90% of max HR, I'd definitely not find maintaining that easy Steve.
At the moment I'm trying to untangle improvements in efficiency from a decreasing max HR. I mark my HR average and max HR hit on strava for every run and then monitor to see if my efficiency is improving. My beats per mile is improving tremendously but the kind of HR I can hold seems to be dropping. A few years ago I could average in the mid 150s for a hard 5k effort, now it's often only 150ish. I guess I'm maybe just training better and spreading the efforts over the week, but until I race fresh I'll not really know.
All good fun though, and watching the overall trend of Beats per mile coming down is my new favourite bit of reviewing my training.
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May 2021
12:52pm, 25 May 2021
4,623 posts
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steve45
Your pace with HR was damned good on that recent 13.1 you did Brunski..geez..it would be fab to do that again but no way now!! At 134 bpm I'm in the "upper aerobic" zone and getting just a little bit out of puff...!!
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May 2021
8:45am, 27 May 2021
5,821 posts
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MisterTea
Only recently started following this thread and thinking about heart rate - so a really basic question. In the training section of Fetch you can adjust your heart rate boundaries - easy and threshold. What should these two numbers relate to? Average heart rate taken from an easy recovery session and average heart rate from a 5km tempo run or something else? Thank you.
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May 2021
9:29am, 27 May 2021
4,629 posts
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steve45
I don't know Mister Tea. I have always followed the principles where zones are related to your resting and maximum heart rates. Easy relates to the easiest zone and where running keeps the heart rate at its lowest working level. For example, for me level 1 or zone 1 (out of a possible 5 zones) my HR is 108-118 which is hardly running. Level 2 is lower aerobic with HR 118-128.
Anaerobic threshold is level 4 with HR 138-148.
Anaerobic for me is level 5 with HR 153bpm.
My max HR is 159.
Resting HR is 57.
Bear in mind I'm old!
Doing a HR test oneself is straightforward.
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May 2021
9:39am, 27 May 2021
5,822 posts
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MisterTea
Thanks Steve. I have values for zones 1-5 based on percentages of MHR. I was just wondering which of these values is supposed to correspond to Fetch's 'easy' and 'threshold' - and whether it makes any difference to anything anyway.
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May 2021
11:04am, 27 May 2021
22,509 posts
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Dvorak
The values can be anything you want to be, for your own purposes
But I do have mine set to what would be the most conventional settings: 70% and 85 % of working heart rate. So green is easy, red is hard effort ... and the grey zone is the grey zone.
There are three graphs on the previous couple of pages, also showing different ways of setting it, though all working out pretty similar. Brunski's I think is 80% and 90% of max hr.
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May 2021
11:32am, 27 May 2021
5,823 posts
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MisterTea
Thank you
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