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Reducing single-use/disposable plastic

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14 Jun
12:21pm, 14 Jun 2019
17191 posts
I get glass bottles of rapeseed oil from Aldi, which is perfectly fine for cooking with.
14 Jun
9:54pm, 14 Jun 2019
4820 posts
Wine Legs
Just saw this: goodnewsnetwork.org

Sounds vaguely promising, especially considering SS, NJ & I were, just yesterday, discussing returning all their non-recyclable packaging to them each week...
14 Jun
10:43pm, 14 Jun 2019
776 posts
Just watched the war on plastic programme on BBC iplayer, which is shocking. I've made a good start by shopping at a local zero waste store (buying cereals, pasta, chocolate and veg, shampoo and conditioner soaps and loo rolls ).

The thing hardest things are budgeting and moving away from my regular online food delivery, as everything from Sainsburys is wrapped in little bags, even if you request loose items.
15 Jun
12:25pm, 15 Jun 2019
28370 posts
Mrs Jigs (Luverlylegs)
That is good news Wine Legs :-)
16 Jun
4:23pm, 16 Jun 2019
3391 posts
run free
Thanks WL - great to see Supermarkets in the UK finally getting to where supermarkets on the continent are already :)
17 Jun
3:42pm, 17 Jun 2019
6319 posts
That is good news. Thinking back to my childhood (OK, it's not *that* long ago compared to world history), all the shops were within easy walking distance and all food was bought loose. We had shopping bags for fruit and vegetables. Bottles were made of glass, many of which were returnable for a deposit. Even sweets were sold from jars.

Wrappers were cardboard or paper and many larger cardboard boxes were re-used, simply re-papered by the manufacturers which made them much stronger. (Were they standard sizes?)

The Scouts collected newspapers for recycling.

The biggest issue I have nowadays is that, living in a village, I have to drive to the nearest town, or shop at the Co-op where everything is wrapped in plastic. I'd like to have more local choices.
1:06pm, 19 Jun 2019
3393 posts
run free
Just looking at what Defra published: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk

Provisional figures for 2017 indicate, 70.2% of UK packaging waste was either recycled
or recovered compared to 71.4% in 2016. This exceeds the EU target to recycle or
recover at least 60% of packaging waste.

Wonder if that figure will ever drop with the waste that has been sent back?

There is an EU target for the UK to recycle at least 50% of household waste by 2020..... maybe we will be out of the EU as we are going to find it hard to meet that target....

Or will the potential development of Plastic to Fuel plants be included in the recycle figures?

Are plastic to fuel plants a good idea?
2:14pm, 19 Jun 2019
17230 posts
Are those figures for what was actually recycled, or what was sent away for recycling?

I've always been skeptical of recycling claims because we don't process it here. The BBC programme recently may be the most widely known about, but reports of our recycling going abroad and ending up goodness knows where have been around for much longer :(
I always used to feel quite smug that my recycling bin was always full but the black bin never was, until I learned a bit more. Since then I've been trying to reduce the volume of everything I bin, but it's so hard. And so expensive in lots of cases.
5:56pm, 19 Jun 2019
3394 posts
run free
Carps - sadly those figures are what is assumed to be recycled. So assume this includes sent away. Even worst read a BBC article that indicated the "recycled" plastic exported was nearly 100%!! bbc.co.uk

Yah Mr purchased some peppers that were bagged. I asked him why he did that. He said cos one unbagged pepper was nearly the same cost of a bag of 3. I said he shouldn't have bought any of it especially as it's not local. He said sometimes I want to eat something without compromising and then told me all the times when he bought local, used his own bags, brings his own cup etc. I let it go

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About This Thread

Information about Plastic Packaging:
UK: wrap.org.uk

EU: ec.europa.eu

What products have microbeads?

To help you reduce try one level at a time:https://tyrelady.wordpress.com/support-the-challenges/

What the EU is doing:

- currently the UK will be following SOME of the EU measures.

Terms used to describe plastic:
1. Biodegradable (also oxi-biodegradable)
2. Bioplastic
3. Compostable
4. Plastic that potentially could be recycled (has numbers)
5. Plastic that cannot be recycled

Some resources:
BBC's info on the numbers on Plastics:

The misconceptions of biodegradable plastics from an academic:

Understanding plastic terms:

Bioplastic developments as seen by British Plastic