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Transgender Athletes

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16 Aug
10:30pm, 16 Aug 2019
20465 posts
And more unbiased research. Hopefully science will be able to give us a balanced view to be able to make informed decisions. At the moment we have opinions and beliefs, and assumptions based only on cis-male v cis-female, which may not necessarily translate.

It doesn’t help those caught up in the current issues but I hope it will help us be fair to everyone later on.

I’m sure that Martina Navratilova’s documentary has been mentioned, I found it very interesting but a clear demonstration that we don’t know the answers yet.
17 Aug
11:09am, 17 Aug 2019
42792 posts
Megster, I've been thinking about what you posted on the last page about combat sports.

I also recoil instinctively from the idea of women who have gone through a male puberty and still retain aspects of male anatomy and physiology fighting women who haven't, but on reflection I'm thinking, "Don't underestimate the strength and skill of women who fight, they're strong and brave and they're not scared to inflict and absorb pain." It's possible that, again, the real injustice is the lack of opportunity for women to do combat sports into adulthood, both recreationally and professionally.

I wonder (and I don't know) whether women who do combat sports believe there's a problem with the acceptance of transgender women. Fallon Fox made headlines, but that needs to be interpreted in the context of the risk of severe head injury in her chosen sport in general. FWIW, I believe golf is more dangerous in that regard.
17 Aug
1:06pm, 17 Aug 2019
734 posts
Thanks for posting that Meglet. The video seems to make sensible scientific points that need to be addressed before athletes with DSDs are banned from competing without artificially reducing their testosterone levels. There might be an ethical issue as well, although I suspect the athletes sign a waiver saying that their samples can be used for scientific research.

It's interesting that those running the 100 m might theoretically benefit from reducing their testosterone levels. If athletes with DSDs are allowed/compelled to do this to compete, presumably it would be allowable for those without DSDs?
17 Aug
6:10pm, 17 Aug 2019
5792 posts
I’ve just started listening to the real science podcast episode which discusses dsd athletes. It has only briefly touched on trans athletes but it’s opening statement stated how contentious an issue this is. I think this thread concurs with that

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