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the vaporfly thread

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21 Jan
9:04am, 21 Jan 2020
10095 posts
larkim
@Boab - I was posting more for the text that I photgraphed rather than the picture of the shoe - Noakes says "An obvious area of development is the "tuning" of running shoes to enable a maximum amount of energy to return to the foot with each stride" quoting an 1986 study. It's something that's been sought for a long time!
jda
21 Jan
10:27am, 21 Jan 2020
6172 posts
jda
Prototype shoes is one thing that definitely should be outlawed. Available to all is a key condition to avoid unfair advantages.
21 Jan
11:29am, 21 Jan 2020
10101 posts
larkim
But where's the line between "prototype" and "elite custom fit"? Or maybe I'm just under some sort of illusion that the best of the best need / want a shoe that is manufactured to very specific tolerances for themselves - perhaps they are just given "off the shelf" product, perhaps with a little extra QC to make sure that they don't have minor flaws or inconsistencies.

To avoid prototypes, the manufacturers would have to come up with some sort of registration system with IAAF / WA - not unachievable though.
jda
21 Jan
11:51am, 21 Jan 2020
6174 posts
jda
The difference is whether a customer can come in to a shop and buy/order it. Simples. Of course there can always be a small grey area but prototype shoe isn't it.
21 Jan
12:31pm, 21 Jan 2020
10103 posts
larkim
I've never really followed shoe progression before, but I'd imagine the big brands would want to get their flagship products out on the feet of elites in advance of them being on sale in the shops, just so that the marketing launch can pivot around that.

But I don't disagree in principle - so long as I can buy them with my own money somewhere in the world, they should be fair game.
21 Jan
2:01pm, 21 Jan 2020
3494 posts
mr d
Unless you are contracted to wear brand X.
21 Jan
2:15pm, 21 Jan 2020
10107 posts
larkim
Yes, but sponsorship tie-ins are something you've agreed to be bound by. I appreciate it is a financial / commercial necessity for some runners to sign up with brands other than Nike (if Nike isn't offering them a deal etc), but I can't see major brands providing sponsorship to athletes if they can't guarantee they'll be running in their kit. It's not a restraint of trade etc.
21 Jan
8:45pm, 21 Jan 2020
3855 posts
FreshStart
On Par With Doping: The First Person To Miss The Olympics For Wearing The Wrong Shoes forbes.com
21 Jan
8:57pm, 21 Jan 2020
3496 posts
mr d
Fair Larkim, but you could have been contracted pre shoe development.

Or you could have left Nike in protest at the appalling way they treated some athletes.

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