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Mar 2018
5:15pm, 20 Mar 2018
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Chrisull
It's a bit like those murder cases where someone like Joanne Lees has the entirety of the public going "she's acting like she's guilty", and "ooh she's not crying" and "I don't like the look of her", only to be proved spectacularly wrong when the police find there was a lone nutcase with a gun who did do it.
Mar 2018
5:24pm, 20 Mar 2018
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Wriggling Snake
"Indeed the vast majority of policy decisions are made for primarily political reasons with reality and evidence at most a distant acquaintance. "

Indeed, May has had a good go at looking tough lately, neatly taking the heat away from all the other stuff she has looked pretty poor at coping with. Johnson, as we all know, is a conniving liar.

I still haven't seen any evidence. I think it is almost certainly the Russian state but I cannot see how we or any one else will ever see the proof that Putin gave the word.

I think a few expulsions suit all. Nothing will be done about Russian money and influence.
Mar 2018
1:49pm, 21 Mar 2018
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Chrisull
Interesting that this article is being cited as the proof that Russia were behind the poisoning, which has this little story in the Independent:

"Could somebody have smuggled something out?” said Amy Smithson, a chemical weapons expert at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies.

“I certainly wouldn’t rule that possibility out, especially a small amount and particularly in view of how lax the security was at Russian chemical facilities in the early 1990s.”

In 1995, a Russian banking magnate called Ivan Kivelidi and his secretary died from organ failure after being poisoned with a military grade toxin found on an office telephone.

A closed trial found that his business partner had obtained the substance via intermediaries from an employee of a state chemical research institute known as GosNIIOKhT, which was involved in the development of Novichoks.

The employee, Leonard Rink, told police he had been storing poisons in his garage and selling them to pay off debts."

independent.co.uk
J2R
Mar 2018
2:05pm, 21 Mar 2018
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J2R
You can probably buy the stuff on the Internet! Still, the question remains as to motive, if it's not Putin/FSB/GRU.
Mar 2018
1:18pm, 26 Mar 2018
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simbil
I see the Sun have 'clarified' what they meant in a previous article about Brexit being a great cost saver for the average consumer:

thesun.co.uk
Mar 2018
1:22pm, 26 Mar 2018
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ChrisHB
LOL!
Mar 2018
1:26pm, 26 Mar 2018
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Chrisull
Who knew all these benefits and trade agreements the EU already had? Not the dimwitted Brexiteer Sun journalists, that's for bloody sure!
Mar 2018
1:30pm, 26 Mar 2018
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jdarun
Clearly they are all remainers because leave voters all knew about that :-)
Apr 2018
1:19pm, 6 Apr 2018
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Chrisull
A decade of austerity in figures and graphs:

twitter.com

Nice. And Nick Clegg/Vince Cable wonder why people won't forgive the Limp Dems in a hurry.
SFL
Apr 2018
10:27pm, 6 Apr 2018
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SFL
Seriously. Is that the best you've got? Some random guys twitter feed which is taken apart in the comments.
Hardly a convincing argument to vote for an antisemitic, socialist, 1960's throwback moron.
Corbyn has peaked. Labour needs a new leader to have any chance of election success.

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