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Oct 2017
2:47pm, 19 Oct 2017
17,736 posts
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DeeGee
I've had an idea. You know the way that, since 1973 every controversial piece of legislation passed in the UK has been done under the subtitle "Brussels forced us to do it!"? This government has realised Brexit is a clusterfuck of extreme proportions, so has put its most vocal proponents onto it to prove they're going to make a fist of it, but are deliberately preventing the negotiations to move forward by stalling on the "bar bill". So come Brexit day, rather than crash out to a fanfare of raspberries, they can just say "Sorry Will Peeple, we're not ignoring you. We really wanted to leave, but Brussels is forcing us to stay." |
Oct 2017
3:13pm, 19 Oct 2017
16,652 posts
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Wriggling Snake
Cameron. Where is that cunt.
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Oct 2017
6:18am, 20 Oct 2017
198 posts
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deslauriers
Binks: re your comments about rabid Brexiters and Remainers. The stark contrast between the two is that the Remain camp is by far more measured and less fervent. There are no swivel headed loons desperately wishing for the UK to be subsumed into a "superstate" or to adopt the Euro. By contrast, after a very narrow victory, the Brexiters demand that we adopt their ultra adamantine hardcore version of Brexit. Most of what is called Project Fear by the Brexit bunch was made up by the Brexit camp, (viz Boris Johnson and the "invasion of 70 million Turks" and the WW3 nonsense). So, the way I see it is that we have something that is going no worse than it ever could but the blame for it going wrong will be laid everywhere but at those responsible. |
Oct 2017
8:20am, 20 Oct 2017
26,521 posts
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macca 53
wherever we end up will be painted by May as "the best deal for Britain" - unfortunately, since no-one has ever done it before she'll be factually correct.
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Oct 2017
10:00am, 20 Oct 2017
11,875 posts
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Chrisull
Boris Johnson the same man who 2 years before was pushing hard for Turkey's acceptance into the EU, against even EU advice and guidance, then jumped on board project fear, and then came back after the referendum and said actually he still supports them joining: telegraph.co.uk The truth is that Britain's were the ones pushing hardest for Turkey to join the EU, and to pretend otherwise is shameless. Lying liars. |
Oct 2017
10:17am, 20 Oct 2017
772 posts
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J2R
Can't we get a separate deal with Turkey once we leave the EU? The increasingly poor human rights record there surely shouldn't deter a government ever-keen to sell arms to places like Saudi Arabia.
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Oct 2017
10:20am, 20 Oct 2017
6,318 posts
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Too Much Water
I think it’s clear to most people that Turkey is becoming a very different state to what it was a few years ago under Erdogan and it’s is looking away from Europe towards other nations in West Asia. He is taking his leadership style from Putin and the country i feel is moving into the same space as Iran as a strong regional player
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Oct 2017
8:01pm, 20 Oct 2017
15,513 posts
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ChrisHB
To me it is clear that if Turkey met the ~35 criteria for being a decent nation that the EU requires, that would be a good thing. When Cameron said he wanted Turkey to join, I took him as meaning exactly the above. |
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Oct 2017
9:45pm, 20 Oct 2017
6,320 posts
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Too Much Water
According to a friend (military instructor at their version of West Point) it is highly unlikely turkey will be what we could call a democracy in a decade.
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Oct 2017
10:10pm, 20 Oct 2017
11,876 posts
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Chrisull
It would need a large cultural shift... admitting to the Armenian genocide instead of making discussion of it a virtually treasonable offence would be a start.
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