The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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Jan 2019
1:30pm, 17 Jan 2019
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K5 Gus
Interval session this morning, for first run in new Zoom Fly Flyknit - felt good, but no "wow !!!", think I might have had to spend big on the VF4% in order to get that.

Splits were reasonable though, and on legs that were tired from a 16 mile trail run yesterday, so all good :-)
Jan 2019
3:58pm, 17 Jan 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
Wow from me Gus - 6:10 pace for 1/2 mile reps off 90s recoveries. Tasty! :-) G
Jan 2019
3:59pm, 17 Jan 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
Also, it's not exactly flat round your way? And was it solo, i.e. not with mates / club mates? Double kudos! :-) G
Jan 2019
4:33pm, 17 Jan 2019
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Bazoaxe
that's the kind of session I want to be running...
Jan 2019
4:56pm, 17 Jan 2019
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K5 Gus
Cheers guys - yes it was solo, but I did drive about 15 miles to get to a nice flat 3 mile section of road ( old railway line, now an access road up to cabins on far side of Loch Lubnaig - you may know it G )
Jan 2019
5:12pm, 17 Jan 2019
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K5 Gus
Does anyone ever do Yasso 800s anymore ? I used to do them years back during training for first couple of marathons, but then I started following P&D and never did them again.

For those that don't know, named after a coach called Bart Yasso who claimed that whatever pace ( in minutes and seconds ) you could do 10 * 800m at, with recovery time equal to the effort time, would equate to your marathon time in hours and minutes.
ie If you could do your 10 reps in 3:00 min average, with 3 min recoveries, you could marathon in 3 hours exactly, 3m30s reps would equate to 3h30m, etc.

It's one of those ones where no-one can explain really why it works, but for most people it does tends to work ( of course, as long as you do appropriate other training - long runs etc ).

Just thinking after my session today, that if I'd had 3 min recoveries rather than 90s then could probably have managed 10 reps rather than 8, and maybe slightly faster, so must be in about 3:05-3:10 shape just now.
Jan 2019
5:12pm, 17 Jan 2019
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larkim
I barely drive 15 miles for any races, let alone a training run!
Jan 2019
5:29pm, 17 Jan 2019
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Chrisull
Ha, never really worked for me, I could always do faster 800m reps (3.15 and below) than I could marathon time, even with adequate training. Ditto MP runs 10 miles kind of thing.
Jan 2019
6:40pm, 17 Jan 2019
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Sjjh
Decent 8:00 (90s), 4x2:00 (60s) 8:00 on Tuesday.
Getting used to a faster weekend long run into working hard on the Tuesday session.

Comfortably sub 6ing the 2's now. Next up is 8 x 3:00 so will be targeting half mile efforts or as close as I can get.

Entered Balloch to Clydebank Half, hoping for a decent PB.
Jan 2019
7:29pm, 17 Jan 2019
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Fat Slow Hawk
I did Yassos in 2:55 ish on Thursday and ran my first sub 3 on Saturday (2:57).
Thats how its supposed to work right ?

About This Thread

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For those who want to go sub 3.15 in a marathon and/or those that have already done it and want to give advice. Share your journey or help someone else's! here.

2024 achievers:
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