The sub 3.30 marathon thread

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Oct 2017
9:04am, 30 Oct 2017
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Uyuni
Sorry to hear that SM6 - I saw the time on strava and just new the pace chart would look all a bit Manchester 2016. It wasn't even a case of going off way too fast, maybe all the ultras that you've been doing having a weird effect of making your legs rebel when asked to run reasonably quickly for a long time. Shorter, and longer distances seem to fine, just marathons, all very odd

I'm sure that one day you'll nail a marathon and then be able to knock them out for fun
Oct 2017
10:56am, 30 Oct 2017
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Oscar the grouch
She's a capricious mistress, the marathon. Hard luck SM6
Oct 2017
1:37pm, 30 Oct 2017
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Hills of Death (HOD)
I did Snowdon couldn't even do sub 4.30 ;-) lol
Oct 2017
1:43pm, 30 Oct 2017
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becca7
I couldn't beat 5:30 at Beachy. :-)
Oct 2017
1:53pm, 30 Oct 2017
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Windsor Wool
can I comment on FF's question, please?

I think most of us do our long runs without too much help in the way of gels etc. However, when it comes to the day aren't we all looking for as much help as we can get out there? There are loads of different types of gels out there, I'd simply suggest having a go with as many brands as you can in the hope that you'll find something that suits. I'm fortunate (or trained?) that I can take pretty much anything but I am still a bit careful with the caffeinated ones. High 5s are my gel of choice - I can't say that they are nice but they are thin enough to be tolerable.

I'd really urge you to give it a go. Good luck!
Oct 2017
2:07pm, 30 Oct 2017
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Fenland Flier
Thanks WW, I agree about looking for as much help as we can get. I have used a high 5 gel that was a 'race give away' in training (no negative affects) but would 'prefer' a water, sports drink approach, if it's possible, to run a marathon that way and wanted to know how other more experienced runners approached fueling.
Oct 2017
2:16pm, 30 Oct 2017
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Windsor Wool
FF, I have run marathons without gels, sure it's possible. And, it's possible to replicate the kcal intake of a gel from drinking Lucozade or something similar. I find that really does me in though, not just in the race but for days after.

So for me the underlying question would be if you can tolerate gels then why not?
Oct 2017
2:17pm, 30 Oct 2017
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Uyuni
I did my first marathon on just sports drinks, but that was London where they give plenty out, although I was feeling pretty queasy by the end. Next couple of races used gels with no ill effects at all, but in my last marathon the gels (same brand) made me feel pretty sick so I’ve had mixed experiences.

The obvious advantage of gels is that you can carry them with you, and they are easier to practice with than drinks. As well the brand it is also essential to practice taking them at race pace as that what I believe caused me trouble last time as I was trying to run a bit quicker than before.
Oct 2017
2:23pm, 30 Oct 2017
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Windsor Wool
Uyuni - you'll have far fewer problems next time given the fact that you'll be out there for *much* less time :-)
Oct 2017
2:25pm, 30 Oct 2017
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Windsor Wool
and FF - it look like you have a serious correction of your marathon time coming up too looking at your shorter pbs / mileage / current mara PB. Nice!

About This Thread

Maintained by Mark J 🇳🇿
PLEASE FMAIL ME DIRECTLY WITH AN UPCOMING SUB 3:30 ATTEMPT and/or LAST YEAR'S SUCCESSES.

2024 achievers:

SailorSteve - London - 3:17:08 SB
auburnette - London - 3:28:47 PB
Tipsku - Leipzig, Germany - 3:27:26 PB
Mark J - Christchurch, New Zealand - 3:12:24 PB

2024 Sub 3:30 Attempts:

April 21st - London - SailorSteve
April 21st - London - auburnette
April 21st - Leipzig, Germany - Tipsku
April 21st - Christchurch, New Zealand - Mark J
April 28th - Newport & date with Scarlett Johansen - Hills of Death (HOD)
April 28th - Newport - Oscar the Grouch (RIP) :(
May 6th - Milton Keynes - Totodave
May 12th - Regensburg, Germany - ptr_runner
May 26th - Edinburgh - SailorSteve
Nov 3rd - Istanbul, Turkey - SailorSteve
Nov 23/24 - Cleethorpes Maravan - Riggys99
Dec 1st - Valencia, Spain - auburnette

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2023 Hall of Fame:

April 2023 - Leipzig - Tipsku - 3:29:36

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