Sub 3Hr Marathon

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Mar 2018
8:00am, 19 Mar 2018
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jdarun
Thanks for comments. I think I have a decent track record of fading gently and also know my limits so should be able to rein things back if it gets too tough. Risk is I kid myself it’s going ok even while the pulse climbs and go well past the point of no return but let’s face it we all enjoy seeing a big crash and burn :-)
Mar 2018
8:27am, 19 Mar 2018
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Little Miss Happy
jda - if you don't mind trying and failing then I see no reason not to go for it, the alternative is a 'what if' which I think is much worse. It's not as though it's an unrealistic objective.
Mar 2018
12:24pm, 19 Mar 2018
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Bazoaxe
jda, my experience is that when I have overshot, by then its too late too consolidate and minimise impact. maybe that's me not reading the signs and something you are better at.

VLM last year a good case in point. Got to halfway fine, about 15 I knew it was getting hard and by 17 decided to consolidate as it wasn't sustainable, but it was too late and from 18 onwards it was a horrible run home, losing large chunks of time. Maybe if I made the call at 15 I would have been OK, but at that stage I didn't know how bad it was going to get.

At your level improving a PB by 3 mins is huge and 6 mins is almost off the scale. You do however have a great track record for knowing where you are what is possible.
Mar 2018
1:04pm, 19 Mar 2018
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jdarun
Agree it's too late if you wait until it's actually going viscerally wrong before lowering your sights but I think my pulse has historically provided a very good guide. My worst result is a +5 positive split and that was very visible in the HRM data (I could sort of tell it was happening on the day but it was only my second serious marathon so I thought I could take the risk). Even that bad a split would still be a PB if I did the first half in 1:22:30. In some ways I'm more scared of the opposite - I'd be gutted if I ran something like 1:24:00/1:21:30 for all that it would still be a big PB. Might be ill or injured next time, at my age there might not be a next time!
Mar 2018
3:06pm, 19 Mar 2018
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icenutter
I’d normally advise people to go conservative on target time. But in this instance; just go out there and smash it. It’s only pain.
Mar 2018
6:51pm, 19 Mar 2018
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Bazoaxe
I was told similar when aiming for sub 3:15 for 1st time and nailed a 3:08 :-)
Mar 2018
9:42am, 20 Mar 2018
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Fordyboy
JDA - Apologies for the delay in replying. Things have been a bit hectic here with work. Preparations are a bit of a mixed bag to be honest. I was limited with a sore right achilles most of last week but managed 22 miles in 2:47 on Saturday which gave me a bit of a boost but now the achilles has tightened again. I can usually keep on top of it by foam rolling my calf so fingers crossed plenty of that will do the trick. I think I've probably accepted that sub 3 is out of reach this time round so will more likely look at sub 3:05 or something like that. Sound like you're in great shape...
Mar 2018
12:37pm, 20 Mar 2018
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Bazoaxe
Fordy - 22 miles in 2:47 would for me be an indicator that sub 3 was possible !
Mar 2018
2:01pm, 20 Mar 2018
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jdarun
Depends on the effort level though - and perhaps terrain. You'd certainly have to go something to get the extra 4 miles done in the time available :-)
Mar 2018
2:21pm, 20 Mar 2018
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Fordyboy
:) Thanks guys. I must admit I was thinking that 3:15 min/mile for the last 4 was pushing it a bit :)
I did feel like I was running within myself which is why it gave me a bit of a boost and the route was fairly flat (similar to Rotterdam). I think basically I'm in a similar position to you JDA (albeit about 20 minutes slower) in that I could go out at sub 3 pace and run the risk of blowing up or being more conservative and potentially coming away with regrets. Fortunately, at the time of writing I have 18 days, 18 hours and 38 minutes to decide :)

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