Sub 3Hr Marathon

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Chris Mar 2018 10:54am, 18 Mar 2018 928 posts	0 Chris We must be lucky in the east, the roads are fine but the wind is bloody cold. 20 miles done with 14 @ mp felt ok after an 85 mile week. Planned the route so the first few easy miles were into the wind to make life a bit easier. Rest day tomorrow I think after a 17 day streak
FergusG Mar 2018 11:57am, 18 Mar 2018 2,334 posts	0 FergusG A slow 13.1 mile plod for me in lieu of Alloa Half. P&D had called for 18 miles (with 14@MP), but I just couldn’t be arsed to hit the pace or cover the full distance. In honesty, I reckon the wind and snow wasn’t nearly as big a factor as my own attitude was this morning.
Bazoaxe Mar 2018 12:10pm, 18 Mar 2018 12,685 posts	0 Bazoaxe Just under 20 for me. At times lovely at times brutal.
Little Miss Happy Mar 2018 12:18pm, 18 Mar 2018 645 posts	0 Little Miss Happy I agree Fergus, attitude is everything - I decided as I was out running that I could talk myself into or out of anything so despite the carp conditions I stuck it out for the 20 but if your head isn't in it it's just not happening. Chris - there's no way I was hitting any sort of pace this morning, staying upright was as good as it got in places. Well done for getting the miles in Baz. jda - when you have a chance would you change the header please? I'm not going to do London this year, Boston (Lincs) for me on the 15th instead.
jdarun Mar 2018 1:36pm, 18 Mar 2018 2,575 posts	0 jdarun Interesting how Reading is mostly getting abuse on twitter for the late cancellation whereas Wilmslow is getting kudos and sympathy for trying to put it on. I won't make any comment about north v south. Must admit I was getting a bit stressed last night about the travel + wind + snow until I realised that I'd already done a 10k and two halves recently so didn't really need another race. Just did 25k on the treadmill at 2:45 schedule, I think the tready is a bit generous with speed but it was certainly easier (and much lower HR) than the 20k at 2:50 pace I did 7 weeks ago so that's looking reasonably positive. Still have to pluck a number out of thin air for Mancs but it's looking like I ought to just set off on 2:45 pace and see what happens. The odds are against it but I would be annoyed to cruise round at 2:48 and get to the end feeling I could have gone harder. Fordyboy, 3 weeks to go for you too, how are your plans?
Brunski Mar 2018 8:27pm, 18 Mar 2018 875 posts	0 Brunski Nice running guys n gal, I got out for another hour of gutter running; 90% in bus lanes or along the kerb, skating along the pavements for the other 10%, very happy with the pace e for the heart rate and a lot of elevation as well. JDA I'd love you to make that sub 2:45 and think you're right to take that approach, you've gone sub 2:50 and your training is certainly pointing to 2:45 being a strong possibility so why the hell not give it a shot. From your analysis you know the HR that you shouldn't be breaching so you can always drop off slightly if you get into the 'danger zone'. I'm planning a similar approach with monitoring the HR and keeping it at levels I think (from previous marathon) I can hold. Im still not sure where that will put me come marathon day but if I don't take a chunk out of my PB something has gone wrong. My half next Sunday will be a real litmus test of where I am, I don't think I've raced anything (parkruns included) as hard as I can for a while but I'll be giving it full beans and looking forward to seeing what happens. I'll not be tapering for it as such, and am planning another long pre-work run on Thursday but at a very easy pace/effort.
Chris Mar 2018 8:34pm, 18 Mar 2018 929 posts	0 Chris Tough decision jda, I have to admit I’ve had similar thoughts. A 2.48/47 would be awesome but would leave me wondering what if I’d gone out harder. I just don’t think I have it in me for a 2.45 so will aim for the safer target. I’ve fallen off badly at 20 miles so know going off too fast isn’t good for me
Bazoaxe Mar 2018 8:37pm, 18 Mar 2018 12,688 posts	0 Bazoaxe Agree, 2:45 would be awesome, but with that you need to accept the risk of not getting the 2:48, or even the PB. Only you know how big a risk that is and if its one you can go with.
Daz Love Mar 2018 9:56pm, 18 Mar 2018 966 posts	0 Daz Love What Baz said is pretty much bang on what I said on your blog.
Daz Love Mar 2018 9:56pm, 18 Mar 2018 967 posts	0 Daz Love Here's what I put... Have a bash at 2:45 I say! Then again that's easy for me to say. You have 2:51 from last year, how gutted would you be if you went for 2:45 but ended with a worse time than your PB? If not bothered then got for it, if you would be gutted then shoot for 2:48 and I'm sure you can get that.