Transgender exercise - Lets Fetch Everyone

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The Great Raemondo
I'm reminded (again, I forget why it came up in a different context a few weeks ago) of the movie 'Connie and Carla', which I very much enjoyed when I saw it many years ago. I'm very intrigued to see how it holds up these days...
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3:43pm, 21 Aug 2021
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-Monty-
Personally (and it may just apply to me but not sure) but I find drag queens offensive and gives the impression that that's what people think trans people are like. I know that my aunt certainly had the thought that way when I said that I was transitioning.
I don't and never have acted like that. But if they are happy and not harming anyone else, then so be it.
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3:57pm, 21 Aug 2021
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DocM
thanks as always for the open and honest answers on here. I often feel so ill informed and it's difficult to ask questions without fear of offending people, usually because it involves issues ive never even thought about. I had just assumed all drag queens had male bodies and identified as male, but I suppose there is no reason why that should be the case or that it should matter...is that right?
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4:58pm, 21 Aug 2021
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LindsD
Thank you for the article, Vixx. It was very helpful and interesting
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The Great Raemondo
It's very likely that I'm an outlier, but I've always thought of the drag queen thing as a very specific, and slightly niche, art form. A bit like (and I hope this isn't considered insulting by anyone because it's absolutely meant as a complement) the panto dame thing.

Not an every day way of being but a piece of performance art, a persona in the classical sense, and as such completely different from simply being a woman (cis, trans, nb, whatever).
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9:25pm, 21 Aug 2021
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Vixx
Raemondo - I think drag came from the panto dame element of theatre and evolved into its own art form.

I see where you are coming from Monty - a few years ago, either Birmingham or Manchester's Pride Parades wanted the Trans groups to come along with the Drag Queens and there was uproar.
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11:36pm, 21 Aug 2021
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ThorntonRunner
Thanks for the article Vixx.
I've had reservations over drag for similar reasons as Monty - that it helps perpetuate the idea that trans people are just playing at their identified gender - that being trans is a lifestyle choice rather than an imperative. On the other hand my trans son is a big fan of Drag Race so the potential misrepresentation clearly doesn't worry him!
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12:35pm, 14 Sep 2021
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NDWDave
I've been listening to the Bad Boy Running podcast with Janae Croc. Worth a listen and I learned a lot from it. I even got my question asked...
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12:47pm, 14 Sep 2021
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Vixx
I still have not listened to that yet :(
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9:06pm, 14 Sep 2021
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Pothunter
I found it very interesting.

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A thread about how we can encourage and include people in whatever exercise they are interested in and removing barriers to participation.

Glossary
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This is NOT comprehensive, just some helpful shorthand.
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Gender Identity ≠ Gender Expression ≠ Anatomical Sex ≠ Sexual Orientation

Anatomical sex = The physical aspects that make you fit into a category based on genitals, chromosomes etc i.e. Intersex, Female, Male...
Gender identity = The internal view of gender, the way you see yourself.
Gender expression = The way you present to others externally through clothing, behaviours, language and other social signals.

Sexual orientation = Who you are attracted to.

None of the above are dependent on any of the others, individuals may relate one to another in their specific case, but assuming what one might be based on observation of another is not a sound basis for determination.

Transgender (Trans) = When your gender identity does not match your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Cisgender (Cis) = When your gender identity matches your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Non Binary (Enby) = When your gender identity doesn't fall into either of the female/male choice. It may exist somewhere on the spectrum between woman and man, either stable of fluctuating between woman-ness and man-ness. This may encapsulate those that may use terms such as genderfluid, agender, demigender et al.

Pronouns = she/her, him/his, them/they etc...
How to refer best to someone else. Really simply, follow their lead. Ask if unsure, be polite. If corrected, it's not a problem unless you repeatedly ignore correction.

Transition = The process somebody goes through to alter their physical attributes to better match their gender identity and expression.

Dysphoria = The distress a person feels due to a mismatch between their gender identity and their sex assigned at birth. Can fluctuate and be experienced at varying degrees.
Dysmorphia = Discomfort with the shape/form of the body. Present in eating disorders and the like, but can often effect transgender people, with triggers such as body hair presence/absence, chest/genital presentation etc.
Deadname - The name a person is assigned at birth, that they no longer use.

Triggers = Things that are known to cause an effect. Typically, X causes a person to experience dysphoria/dysmorphia. Sometimes these can be managed/avoided, other times they are inevitable.

Acronyms:
amab = assigned male at birth (originally born anatomically male)

afab = assigned female at birth (originally born anatomically female)

ftm = female to male transitioner
mtf = male to female transitioner
egg = state of somebody before becoming aware they were transgender i.e. "their egg cracked when they realised and began to emerge"
GIC/GIS = Gender Identity Clinic/Service, providing transition services
GRS = Gender Reassignment Surgery

General notes:
* Not everyone will be comfortable talking about their situation, depending on where they are.
* Not everyone has the language to articulate how they feel, what they want to say. Be patient.
* These things are NOT static, what you encounter in a person today may evolve into something else later.
* Am I trans/cis/enby etc... Frankly, you tell us. Whatever YOU are comfortable with at the time is what we will adopt. It is YOUR identity.
* This language is weird. Yup, and we (CreatureOfTheHill) as a plural system talk strange too, it's OK. We (CreatureOfTheHill) are not "normal", never have been.
* Am I weird/abnormal? Possibly, but it has NOTHING to do with being here or being trans/enby or whatever. People just are in general, and that is OK, we love you for your quirkiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFL5GTKwonQ


Resources:
Genderbread Person genderbread.org

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