Transgender exercise - Lets Fetch Everyone

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Carpathius
That's a very knee-jerk reaction to one study apart from being utter nonsense - especially if they're not worried about trans men playing. Ugh.
Jul 2020
4:47pm, 24 Jul 2020
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Raemond
Makes it pretty clear that 'player safety' is just a poor excuse masking the real motivation of persecuting trans women, doesn't it?

In the various rugby fora I frequent I'm pleased to see that cis female players are overwhelmingly against this proposal and determined to fight for our trans sisters right to keep playing.
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Vixx
From what I understand, a group called Fair Play for Women were involved in the discussions and they are a known anti-trans group.
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6:00pm, 24 Jul 2020
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ThorntonRunner
Signed - thanks Rae for pointing it out to us
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6:16pm, 24 Jul 2020
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Corrah
Signed here too. Cheers Rae.
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6:19pm, 24 Jul 2020
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Carpathius
Yes, thank you Rae. I was unaware before you posted here.
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6:25pm, 24 Jul 2020
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The Scribbler
Signed - thanks Rae
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7:02pm, 24 Jul 2020
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chunkywizard
Just found this thread and trying to educate myself :-)
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7:49pm, 24 Jul 2020
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Vixx
Hi chunkywizard :)
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8:29pm, 24 Jul 2020
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Raemond
If it's a relatively new issue to you, CW, it might be a lot of info to take in, but folk here are pretty willing to answer questions asked in good faith :)

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A thread about how we can encourage and include people in whatever exercise they are interested in and removing barriers to participation.

Glossary
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This is NOT comprehensive, just some helpful shorthand.
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Gender Identity ≠ Gender Expression ≠ Anatomical Sex ≠ Sexual Orientation

Anatomical sex = The physical aspects that make you fit into a category based on genitals, chromosomes etc i.e. Intersex, Female, Male...
Gender identity = The internal view of gender, the way you see yourself.
Gender expression = The way you present to others externally through clothing, behaviours, language and other social signals.

Sexual orientation = Who you are attracted to.

None of the above are dependent on any of the others, individuals may relate one to another in their specific case, but assuming what one might be based on observation of another is not a sound basis for determination.

Transgender (Trans) = When your gender identity does not match your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Cisgender (Cis) = When your gender identity matches your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Non Binary (Enby) = When your gender identity doesn't fall into either of the female/male choice. It may exist somewhere on the spectrum between woman and man, either stable of fluctuating between woman-ness and man-ness. This may encapsulate those that may use terms such as genderfluid, agender, demigender et al.

Pronouns = she/her, him/his, them/they etc...
How to refer best to someone else. Really simply, follow their lead. Ask if unsure, be polite. If corrected, it's not a problem unless you repeatedly ignore correction.

Transition = The process somebody goes through to alter their physical attributes to better match their gender identity and expression.

Dysphoria = The distress a person feels due to a mismatch between their gender identity and their sex assigned at birth. Can fluctuate and be experienced at varying degrees.
Dysmorphia = Discomfort with the shape/form of the body. Present in eating disorders and the like, but can often effect transgender people, with triggers such as body hair presence/absence, chest/genital presentation etc.
Deadname - The name a person is assigned at birth, that they no longer use.

Triggers = Things that are known to cause an effect. Typically, X causes a person to experience dysphoria/dysmorphia. Sometimes these can be managed/avoided, other times they are inevitable.

Acronyms:
amab = assigned male at birth (originally born anatomically male)

afab = assigned female at birth (originally born anatomically female)

ftm = female to male transitioner
mtf = male to female transitioner
egg = state of somebody before becoming aware they were transgender i.e. "their egg cracked when they realised and began to emerge"
GIC/GIS = Gender Identity Clinic/Service, providing transition services
GRS = Gender Reassignment Surgery

General notes:
* Not everyone will be comfortable talking about their situation, depending on where they are.
* Not everyone has the language to articulate how they feel, what they want to say. Be patient.
* These things are NOT static, what you encounter in a person today may evolve into something else later.
* Am I trans/cis/enby etc... Frankly, you tell us. Whatever YOU are comfortable with at the time is what we will adopt. It is YOUR identity.
* This language is weird. Yup, and we (CreatureOfTheHill) as a plural system talk strange too, it's OK. We (CreatureOfTheHill) are not "normal", never have been.
* Am I weird/abnormal? Possibly, but it has NOTHING to do with being here or being trans/enby or whatever. People just are in general, and that is OK, we love you for your quirkiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFL5GTKwonQ


Resources:
Genderbread Person genderbread.org

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