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Transgender Athletes

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Dec 2021
2:05pm, 3 Dec 2021
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larkim
That's only worse though if you disagree with it. It's not an approach I would instinctively come up with for a hard contact sport like kickboxing, but I'd at least give them a hearing to listen to why they've made that choice.
MsG
Dec 2021
2:35pm, 3 Dec 2021
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MsG
Recent illustration from collegiate swimming in the US
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IMO this is unfair to biological females - how can Thomas's inclusion outweigh the right of women to fair competition.

This photo from the Olympics of the mixed relay swimming team illustrates the physical differences too. twitter.com
Jun 2022
10:14pm, 21 Jun 2022
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57.5 Degrees of Pain
Seems like this thread is relevant again given the recent news on sports opting to act on the evidence of the permanent benefits of undergoing a male puberty.
Jun 2022
12:24pm, 22 Jun 2022
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The_Saint
The swimming proposal for an open transgender category seems the fairest for everyone.
Jun 2022
1:09pm, 22 Jun 2022
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larkim
As an opinion-free comment, it's interesting to see that after a few years of very intense and heated debate on both sides, that many governing bodies are finding that they need to be coming to points of decision.
Jun 2022
7:27pm, 22 Jun 2022
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MudMeanderer
I'm not how much awareness there is of just what a Pandora's Box that may be opened by this, well beyond exclusion of a subset of individuals from one competitive category.

This legislation proposed by Ohio Republicans was reported in several sources a short while ago. It's odious and is little more than creating a mandate for sexual abuse, but is quickly where moving beyond self identification can lead. washingtonpost.com
Jun 2022
9:37pm, 22 Jun 2022
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Vixx
I have a friend who went to the Olympics - genital inspections for female athletes were going on in the late 80s and 90s so that's actually nothing new. They said they had to go through it twice and they are a biological female.
jda
Jun 2022
9:45pm, 22 Jun 2022
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jda
That wapo article was about school sports not the Olympics.
Jun 2022
9:47pm, 22 Jun 2022
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57.5 Degrees of Pain
I'm not how much awareness there is of just what a Pandora's Box that may be opened by this, well beyond exclusion of a subset of individuals from one competitive category. This legislation proposed by Ohio Republicans was reported in several sources a short while ago. It's odious and is little more than creating a mandate for sexual abuse, but is quickly where moving beyond self identification can lead. washingtonpost.com
The acceptance of scientific facts around the impact of a male puberty to protect sport for women who didn't get such a benefit should have nothing whatsoever to do with the obnoxious activities of mostly white and male far right politicians!
Jun 2022
3:39am, 23 Jun 2022
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Vixx
My friend was 16 when it was first done, and not then an Olympian.

I think it's awful for it to have to happen at all, regardless. Nobody should have to have that happen.

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