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Transgender Athletes

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Jovi Runner Aug 2019 11:33am, 14 Aug 2019 6,458 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner So you can take banned substances as long as it's part of your transition medical programme - surely that is wide open for abuse by unscrupulous athletes? Please note I am not accusing genuinelly transgender athletes (although I still think advantages persist even with lwoered testosterone) but as amply demonstarated in cycling & tennis athletes even at the highest level have been known to suddenly acquire"conditions" if it means they can take drugs.
Velociraptor Aug 2019 11:39am, 14 Aug 2019 42,743 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor The WSER is not obliged to comply with IOC rules and testosterone measurement doesn't form part of the assessment. outsideonline.com
Jovi Runner Aug 2019 12:13pm, 14 Aug 2019 6,459 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner So, in theory it's OK to run any old qualifying race so you qualify for Western States & that's OK. That seems grossly unfair to female athletes.
Jovi Runner Aug 2019 12:15pm, 14 Aug 2019 6,460 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner & why does fairness to Grace override fairness to the protected female category. Again, one persons fairness is usurping the 000's of others.
Jovi Runner Aug 2019 12:18pm, 14 Aug 2019 6,461 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner I find the pronoun cis hugely offensive. Why am I regarded as a horrible person for insisting I do not want to be called by that but those transitioning seem to be able to appear to insist on their pronouns (I am not referrign to anyone here who has never insisted I sue any words but referring to media cases where people have been repreimanded for using the wrong pronoun) being used without any recourse. That whole western states policy stinks IMO.
Bazoaxe Aug 2019 12:23pm, 14 Aug 2019 15,093 posts	Quote Pin Bazoaxe I think we need to accept that there is no answer to this which will cover all bases appropriately.
SPR Aug 2019 12:32pm, 14 Aug 2019 28,965 posts	Quote Pin SPR Cisgender - denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex. I don't see the issue it's just the opposite of transgender. What's the issue?
Raemond Aug 2019 12:37pm, 14 Aug 2019 3,013 posts	Quote Pin Raemond It upsets Jovio's classical sensibilities because it's 'not a real word,' or something.
Velociraptor Aug 2019 12:51pm, 14 Aug 2019 42,744 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor "Cisgender" has only entered general usage recently and it would be naïve to expect everyone just to smile sweetly and accept it. I'm totally comfortable with its use in legal, medical, and technical contexts, but in everyday life instinct is, "Don't go sticking a new label on me now."
ThorntonRunner Aug 2019 12:56pm, 14 Aug 2019 2,380 posts	Quote Pin ThorntonRunner In discussing transgender issues I find it useful, but again, would never use it in general conversation.