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Transgender Athletes

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1 Oct
2:45pm, 1 Oct 2021
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auburnette
Re open category for the listing of all results, I personally wouldn't like this because I do care about racing even though I am unlikely ever to place in anything other than local races and parkrun. It's already bad enough in races trying to figure out if there are any women ahead and if so how many of them, you're usually reliant on kind spectators (or fellow runners on out and back courses) telling you your placing (maybe I should seek out more women only races where it's easier to see who is ahead). This is a difficulty with age categories too I recognise.

In the women's category, there is already arguably a lack of depth in many races compared to the men's field - this could be for many reasons including that women are less likely to want to run competitively (or able to commit to hard training because of competing demands) - but it's unlikely to be helped by making the category harder to identify given that male people will inexorably rise to the top of any open category and any mass start line. We have initiatives like This Girl Can specifically to try and encourage female participation in sports and so (and also because I am a passionate feminist) I am super opposed to anything which might dilute women's incentives or ability to participate in sport whether it's grassroots or elite.
1 Oct
2:53pm, 1 Oct 2021
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RooA
I agree Auburnette. I would prefer a Female/Open model to a Universal model with a secret squirrel women's list. The F/O model might dilute the depth in the women's category though, just from women choosing to run up or to just not specify. There would be a risk of that for sure.
2 Oct
1:40pm, 2 Oct 2021
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RooA
podcasts.apple.com

A podcast about it with Prof Ross Tucker. I haven't listened yet but people might be interested.
2 Oct
3:58pm, 2 Oct 2021
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The_Saint
I listened to it, very refreshing to hear someone concentrate on the science and cut through the bullshit.
7 Oct
10:56am, 7 Oct 2021
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paul the builder
This could yet be a temporary issue as the next generation of trans people might only have one puberty and not two, thus have no real advantage or disadvantage

I find this idea alarming, if I have understood it correctly.
15 Oct
9:05pm, 15 Oct 2021
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RooA
Transwomen and male-born non-binary people are to be allowed to play ice hockey in the women's ice hockey league (PHL, recently rebounded from NWHL) in the US and Canada.

nwhl.zone

There does not appear to be any requirement for testosterone suppression in order to do so.

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