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The War in Ukraine

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Oct 2022
5:42pm, 10 Oct 2022
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Northern Exile
Couple of thoughts, questions. Yep, those missiles slipped through untroubled but perhaps the ADF have been moved away from Kyiv as it's not been under attack for months ........

They've had to deploy what by now must be a dwindling arsenal of 'decent' missiles not to mention the other resources. Could it be a calculated risk to draw attention away from the front and launch another ground push in the next few days before winter and mud stop progress?


Quite the reverse, all the indications (based on OS of course) are that the ADF around Kyiv has been bolstered significantly in recent months. How effective they've been against these most recent attacks is hard to judge.

One thing I think you do have right is that these attacks must have seriously depleted Putin's missile stockpile, he won't be able to do that again in a hurry.
Oct 2022
7:52pm, 10 Oct 2022
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Muttley
This purports to be a missile being shot down. Best with sound on. They seem quite pleased.

twitter.com

(The shouts are, basically, "go on" to his mate with the MANPADS and then, roughly, "down you come, bastard" to the missile)
Oct 2022
8:35pm, 10 Oct 2022
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Northern Exile
That's quite impressive if it's what actually happened, it will do global sales no end of good.

Just thumbing through my dictionary of obscenities and can't quite place that one :-) I know it's сука~ something, but what? Going deaf in my old age
Oct 2022
10:42pm, 10 Oct 2022
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Muttley
He says "Π΄Π°Π²Π°ΠΉ сука, ΠΏΠ°Π΄Π°ΠΉ" :-)
Oct 2022
10:55pm, 10 Oct 2022
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GimmeMedals
I just wanted to say thanks for this thread and the posts on it. I have found it to be very informative over the past months.
Oct 2022
11:01pm, 10 Oct 2022
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Silent Runner
Likewise.
Oct 2022
11:16pm, 10 Oct 2022
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Fields
Hitting civilian targets across Ukraine does nothing to interrupt the Ukrainian army and presumably will only serve to bolster the Ukrainian public's determination (a bit like the Blitz did in the 2nd World War.) It seems like a somewhat desperate throw of the dice.


The more recent research on the Blitz is rather revisionist about its actual impact on the British psyche versus the contemporary propaganda angle - Angus Calder has written a book called β€œthe myth of the blitz” which is meant to be good, must read it
Oct 2022
6:57am, 11 Oct 2022
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LazyDaisy
Oh yes now you mention it I think I read a review of that Fields. But the fact the myth, if such it was, took hold is itself a useful bit of 'public spirit bolstering'. The Ukrainian public must be exhausted but there don't seem to be any signs yet of them being ready to give up. At least, we aren't being shown any such signs.
Oct 2022
7:48am, 11 Oct 2022
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richmac
But like this country during the 'blitz' there are vast swathes of Ukraine that are largely ( I mean bombs dropping) unaffected in day to day life.

That's not too say the suffering in the affected areas isn't awful and imaginable to us. I think, people in those situations and mammals are massively adaptable, learn quickly to survive, the alternative is rather permanent, but yes they must be exhausted by this, they are showing true grit though, countering the threat becomes the sole purpose.
Oct 2022
8:12am, 11 Oct 2022
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Northern Exile
He says "Π΄Π°Π²Π°ΠΉ сука, ΠΏΠ°Π΄Π°ΠΉ"

Ah, got it. What was your translation? Something like "get down you bastard"?

About This Thread

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Please feel free to post anything of consequence, links to reports, analysis, ways in which we can support the people of Ukraine. Not a forum for bashing the UK government, the politics thread is a good place for that.

Royal United Services Institute - rusi.org
Bellingcat - bellingcat.com
Human Rights Watch - hrw.org
Reuters - reuters.com
BBC Russian Service - bbc.com
Ria Novosti - ria.ru
Russian Online TV - ontvtime.ru
Russian TV News - tv-novosti.ru
UK Government Response - gov.uk
UK MOD Twitter Feed - twitter.com
ABC News - abcnews.go.com
Wion Russia - Ukraine - wionews.com

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