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The War in Ukraine

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May 2022
11:46am, 10 May 2022
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TROSaracen
For his big day they would have pumped him full of all sorts to mask any ill health, that sort of thing really matters to the nation and to Putin himself.

Remember the last days of Brezhnev.
May 2022
12:54pm, 10 May 2022
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LazyDaisy
twitter.com

Interesting piece by Hugo Rifkind on how the difference between Russia's and the West's understanding of 'Nazism'.

Obviously it does not excuse Russian behaviour but it helps me to understand why the Russian in the street is acquiescing in Putin's fantasy.
May 2022
1:07pm, 11 May 2022
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swittle
'Nato entry for Finland and Sweden will enhance European security.'

Interesting views expressed by former Finnish PM about Finland & Sweden 'joining NATO'. Alexander Stubb also appeared on BBC News this morning.

ft.com
May 2022
1:09pm, 11 May 2022
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swittle
^ Oh. FT article is subscribers only, altjhough I did click on a link before posting it and read the piece.

Try this:

aljazeera.com
May 2022
1:54pm, 11 May 2022
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Dvorak
There's a pretty whopping error in that Al Jazeera article. It states that Finland has a standing army of 900 000 and an additional

280 000 reserve strength. "Hang on", I thought. "I don't believe that the standing army constitutes over 15% of the Finnish population."

And it doesn't. The standing army is (figures vary) around 21 000, the large bulk of whom are conscripts. Total full time defence forces maybe 35 000. The other figures: 280 000 wartime strength, the vast majority of whom are territorials. 900 000 is the reserve strength, which I presume is everyone who has ever served and could still be called into action.
May 2022
1:59pm, 11 May 2022
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richmac
If you read GlennR's blog from the day of the parade he's picked up on something the MSM seem not to have mentioned.

Sweden/Finland adding to NATO is a fascinating question, it would add to Putins paranoia but honestly I think it would lead to a more secure world.
May 2022
2:08pm, 11 May 2022
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Cerrertonia
Finland is pretty proud of its reservists though. It's fairly clear who they need to defend against, and they have armed and trained a substantial part of the male population, over many decades. People have weapons, know how to use them, what the command structure is and what their role would be when the Russians turn up. They would be a very different proposition to the Ukrainians, for example.
May 2022
2:12pm, 11 May 2022
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Cerrertonia
And noting that the figure in the report is a direct quote from the former foreign minister, not a reporter mistake.
May 2022
2:15pm, 11 May 2022
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richmac
Could be a bit of a re run of the last time Russia had a go, but this time the Finns have NATO backing.
May 2022
3:57pm, 11 May 2022
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-Monty-
If the UK is to start providing support for other countries I'd like to know when the defense budget will start to increase to provide resources etc for it all!
What about our defense too?

About This Thread

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Please feel free to post anything of consequence, links to reports, analysis, ways in which we can support the people of Ukraine. Not a forum for bashing the UK government, the politics thread is a good place for that.

Royal United Services Institute - rusi.org
Bellingcat - bellingcat.com
Human Rights Watch - hrw.org
Reuters - reuters.com
BBC Russian Service - bbc.com
Ria Novosti - ria.ru
Russian Online TV - ontvtime.ru
Russian TV News - tv-novosti.ru
UK Government Response - gov.uk
UK MOD Twitter Feed - twitter.com
ABC News - abcnews.go.com
Wion Russia - Ukraine - wionews.com

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