The War in Ukraine

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swittle Apr 2022 9:29am, 24 Apr 2022 86,147 posts	Quote Pin swittle 'Bells on Sunday' from Kyiv’s Monastery of the Caves: an all-night vigil. bbc.co.uk
LazyDaisy Apr 2022 7:42am, 25 Apr 2022 35,671 posts	Quote Pin LazyDaisy Another fire, this time in an oil storage depot. Are fires like this a regular occurrence (poor maintenance, corruption of people paid to install fire safety etc etc) and we're only aware now because of the war? Or can we reasonably attribute them to sabotage?
richmac Apr 2022 8:24am, 25 Apr 2022 18,469 posts	Quote Pin richmac Interesting LD. Seems this one is 'only' 100k from the border. It's a long way on foot but well within range of missiles perhaps from Ukraine, if they had them to spare and Ukraine would be justified in hitting it. Could be good old incompetence, could be anti Putin sabotage we don't know and no one is saying. The location perhaps is important. Being so close is this a facility the Russians rely on to provide fuel for their invading army ? So if it's internal sabotage is it being targeted/co-ordinated to strategically disrupt the Russian army? If so who's doing the organisation? Seems to me sabotage is likely, it's the only way the Russian people can protest without being sent to the salt mines.
Derby Tup Apr 2022 8:38am, 25 Apr 2022 55,263 posts	Quote Pin Derby Tup dailymail.co.uk Mail reporting it as missile attack
Muttley Apr 2022 8:49am, 25 Apr 2022 1,519 posts	Quote Pin Muttley For logistics, fuel and rail are essential. Oil depots in flames, a railway blown up in a neighbouring region of Russia ... Ukrainian forces or sympathisers seem to be at work. Good for them.
richmac Apr 2022 10:43am, 25 Apr 2022 18,470 posts	Quote Pin richmac It's something that Putin never had to worry about with Syria or Chechnya, his victims fighting back on Russian soil. Hope it brings him down quicker
Northern Exile Apr 2022 11:56am, 25 Apr 2022 8,722 posts	Quote Pin Northern Exile All very interesting. I wonder if the Ukrainians truly have the OTHT capabilities to deliver precision munitions in the way they've been doing? Their Aerogvozdika division has been achieving great things, but somehow I think this is a bit beyond their purview.
Muttley Apr 2022 4:10pm, 25 Apr 2022 1,521 posts	Quote Pin Muttley They have the Tochka-u missile, which is road mobile and has a range of up to 40 miles. Drive it up to the border and launch, and withdraw pronto. Possible I suppose.
Muttley Apr 2022 4:11pm, 25 Apr 2022 1,522 posts	Quote Pin Muttley Especially as there are two depots ablaze in Bryansk, which definitely indicates hostile action.
Northern Exile Apr 2022 4:32pm, 25 Apr 2022 8,733 posts	Quote Pin Northern Exile I have also been looking at close-border scenarios like that. Yeah, definitely possible. I can't help thinking that they're getting third-party targetting info though, it's what you'd expect given how things have unfurled.

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Royal United Services Institute - rusi.org
Bellingcat - bellingcat.com
Human Rights Watch - hrw.org
Reuters - reuters.com
BBC Russian Service - bbc.com
Ria Novosti - ria.ru
Russian Online TV - ontvtime.ru
Russian TV News - tv-novosti.ru
UK Government Response - gov.uk
UK MOD Twitter Feed - twitter.com
ABC News - abcnews.go.com
Wion Russia - Ukraine - wionews.com

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