The War in Ukraine
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Sep 2023
8:10am, 9 Sep 2023
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richmac
But don't you know? It's all NATOs fault and you can negotiate with Russia. Apparently. |
Sep 2023
8:52am, 9 Sep 2023
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Muttley
I was watching the news last night on Russian TV. Smiling faces, high turnouts, vox pops about our future being with Russia, and impressed foreign observers ...
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Sep 2023
8:55am, 9 Sep 2023
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richmac
I was watching the news last night on Russian TV. Smiling faces, high turnouts, vox pops about our future being with Russia, and impressed foreign observers ... All filmed on a sound stage near Moscow? |
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Sep 2023
1:29pm, 12 Sep 2023
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Muttley
Historian Timothy Snyder with a succinct explanation of what Russia is up to in Ukraine. x.com |
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Sep 2023
1:40pm, 12 Sep 2023
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richmac
What's amazing about that is some of the replies saying it's all propaganda. Kremlins useful idiots
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Sep 2023
8:40am, 13 Sep 2023
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Muttley
People who choose to live next to an army training ground complain about the shooty bang bang noise. archive.ph FFS. |
Sep 2023
9:17am, 13 Sep 2023
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Johnny Blaze
Tim Snyder is a wise man with lots of interesting things to say. "On Tyranny" should be required reading for every student. |
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Sep 2023
9:28am, 13 Sep 2023
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Muttley
It's been a bit overshadowed by Putin meeting his fat Stalinist fear-of-flying friend but Ukraine seems to have scored a huge hit on the Sevastopol docks overnight. A landing ship and a submarine taken out, apparently. This follows the destruction of a SAM system the other week, so preparing the ground by crippling the anti-aircraft and anti-missile defences. If they can't stop Ukrainian missiles from hitting their main naval facility there, it becomes a lot harder to hold on to Crimea. |
Sep 2023
9:38am, 13 Sep 2023
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Northern Exile
Yes, it was a Ropucha that they targetted. A few of us have been speculating as to why the Ukrainians have been hitting all the ships that have an amphibious capability, I suppose when you think about it knocking out that capacity makes sense. Mixed reports about the submarine, as you know the Russians don't have nukes in the Black Sea and the conventional boats that are there have limited utility in this conflict.
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Sep 2023
9:47am, 13 Sep 2023
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Muttley
Muttley Jnr, who is completing a Master's in Defence and Security Studies, tells me one of his recent papers was about how you don't need to have a navy to deny another navy the ability to operate. Some shore-launched ASMs and uncrewed vessels laden with explosives are enough.
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Please feel free to post anything of consequence, links to reports, analysis, ways in which we can support the people of Ukraine. Not a forum for bashing the UK government, the politics thread is a good place for that.
Royal United Services Institute - rusi.org
Bellingcat - bellingcat.com
Human Rights Watch - hrw.org
Reuters - reuters.com
BBC Russian Service - bbc.com
Ria Novosti - ria.ru
Russian Online TV - ontvtime.ru
Russian TV News - tv-novosti.ru
UK Government Response - gov.uk
UK MOD Twitter Feed - twitter.com
ABC News - abcnews.go.com
Wion Russia - Ukraine - wionews.com
Royal United Services Institute - rusi.org
Bellingcat - bellingcat.com
Human Rights Watch - hrw.org
Reuters - reuters.com
BBC Russian Service - bbc.com
Ria Novosti - ria.ru
Russian Online TV - ontvtime.ru
Russian TV News - tv-novosti.ru
UK Government Response - gov.uk
UK MOD Twitter Feed - twitter.com
ABC News - abcnews.go.com
Wion Russia - Ukraine - wionews.com
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