The Environment Thread :-)
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Sep 2022
11:26am, 9 Sep 2022
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Chrisull
See my comments in politics section. Backed up with bloomberg.com article, but there's many other places. Guardian. theguardian.com |
Sep 2022
11:29am, 9 Sep 2022
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Chrisull
Looking at Unherd's journalist list, plenty of Guardian journos on there (and some more right wing ones). So is the Guardian also not meeting fozzy's gold standard? Or rather there is NO SUCH THING as a gold standard, just varying degrees of grey.
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Sep 2022
11:32am, 9 Sep 2022
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fuzzyduck79
mediabiasfactcheck.com This tallies with my experience of UnHerd. It's not somewhere I read many articles, and some of their most viral pieces have been towards the less factual/controversial/misinfo end of the spectrum. But I wouldn't dismiss anything on there blindly, there will be some articles/opinions which have merit |
Sep 2022
11:42am, 9 Sep 2022
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rf_fozzy
They spout a lot of misinformation, poorly researched articles and publish any crap. From both ends of the spectrum. Not a reliable source. |
Sep 2022
11:43am, 9 Sep 2022
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rf_fozzy
This should raise warning flags: "Unherd Ventures Limited, a private company owned by Sir Paul Marshall, owns and publishes the website. Sir Paul Marshall is the Chairman of Marshall Wace LLP, a prominent hedge fund group. Marshall is also an investor in the Right-leaning TV News station GB News. Further, he was a major donor in support of Brexit."
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Sep 2022
11:57am, 9 Sep 2022
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fuzzyduck79
Yes I did see that. But UnHerd isn't chock full of rubbish, it just publishes a wide range of opinions and in there will be some that you and I disagree strongly with. I can certainly remember some dubious pieces about lockdowns during the first years of the pandemic. The piece Chrisull has posted today doesn't seem mildly controversial |
Sep 2022
12:03pm, 9 Sep 2022
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fuzzyduck79
I'd say UnHerd was a big platform for Covid deniers/antivaxxers/anti maskers/natural immunity nonsense peddlers, eg: unherd.com |
Sep 2022
12:04pm, 9 Sep 2022
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rf_fozzy
When they post a lot of crap, how can you be certain about the stuff that you think isn't? I'm not necessarily challenging the article that Chris posted, nor the point he is trying to make. I'm pointing out that Unherd is an unreliable source. For precisely the reason you point out. And remember *opinion* is =/= well sourced, referenced article with data. Best publication in the UK for this. FT. Hands down. |
Sep 2022
12:13pm, 9 Sep 2022
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fuzzyduck79
I agree the FT is generally excellent and UnHerd is at best a mixed bag.
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Sep 2022
1:23pm, 11 Sep 2022
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rf_fozzy
Trump's legacy on the Climate. twitter.com Reminder Wind and Solar are now so cheap, that short of outright bans (hello Tory party), FF are no longer the option. Note this also why Nuclear isn't going to happen. SMR or large reactors. |
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