So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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18 Feb
6:58am, 18 Feb 2022
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BBC article on the same thing which talks about the coach as well (lots of success but athletes generally retire pretty early):
18 Feb
10:07am, 18 Feb 2022
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Indeed. And that is why everyone saying the age of the athelete doesn't matter is wrong in my opinion. It does matter if they are still a child and the process *does* need to be slightly different.
18 Feb
10:26am, 18 Feb 2022
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I hadn't quite appreciated her history as part of a "production line" of talent from the same coach, and that definitely makes a difference to me in terms of her exposure. Cultural differences aside, her coach's public displays yesterday give an impression which is definitely not one which shows the athlete as being in control in any way at all.

There is a fine line between being a robust coach of a child athlete that challenges and toughens up a talented youngster into being a capable adult athlete vs an abusive coach that takes advantage of the vulnerability of a child to make them perform. Parents also carry responsibility too.
18 Feb
1:42pm, 18 Feb 2022
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Not watched it, but this about how cold Kamila's entourage was to her is pretty sad.

All coaching, all coaches and all sportsmen are different and have different approaches, but in my opinion, this approach here is akin to the manager of a production line of robots and no coaching/mentoring whatsoever.
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7:53am, 21 Feb 2022
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The Mussile
"Doping probably wouldn't give you enough jumping ability either." By that I mean if you've only got a 10 inch vertical, you're going to have to go some to get the 40 inch plus likely needed for high jump.

For sure, no amount of doping is going to make most of us even get near olympic champions. But if you are an elite level high jumper the ability to train more often and harder can possibly make that difference
21 Feb
9:06am, 21 Feb 2022
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...and that's basically what I've said on this thread. You've taken the post I've written out of the context it was written.

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