So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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paulcook 16 Aug 8:24pm, 16 Aug 2023 3,160 posts	0 paulcook Yes. Having one is unfortunate, two well … I also notice Freeman was doctor at Bolton Wanderers for a period which was their best for nigh on 60 years. Yes. Pure conjecture and circumstantial evidence but it makes it harder to believe.
stuart little 16 Aug 8:41pm, 16 Aug 2023 2,405 posts	0 stuart little Hessmann suspended today too. The old Rabobank habits at Jumbo die hard.
SPR 16 Aug 8:50pm, 16 Aug 2023 42,236 posts	0 SPR I think the point with Armstrong is you needed to believe in myths like a cancer survivor wouldn't dope to not think he was guilty by the point he was actually found guilty. It didn't need conjecture.
stuart little 16 Aug 8:53pm, 16 Aug 2023 2,406 posts	0 stuart little Myths like having undiagnosed bilharizia
SPR 16 Aug 8:58pm, 16 Aug 2023 42,237 posts	0 SPR Again, there was hard evidence against Armstrong with witnesses that needed the shield to be ignored. I'm not saying Froome waa clean or not, I have no truck in the game but Armstrong is not the same.
SPR 16 Aug 8:59pm, 16 Aug 2023 42,238 posts	0 SPR Obviously a doctor banned for actions taken while working for the team is grounds for suspicion and investigation.
Derby Tup 16 Aug 9:55pm, 16 Aug 2023 60,896 posts	0 Derby Tup Professional sportspeople cheat. Footballers hold opponents at set-pieces and dive, cricketers ball tamper and claim catches that don't carry. Having the right pillow or a top notch chef doesn't make a journeyman into a winner and certainly doesn't make a none doper beat a doper
SPR 16 Aug 9:59pm, 16 Aug 2023 42,239 posts	0 SPR People cheat full stop. It's not a professional only thing.
Derby Tup 16 Aug 10:01pm, 16 Aug 2023 60,897 posts	0 Derby Tup Fair point