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clairster Jun 2013 2:52pm, 12 Jun 2013 1,407 posts	Quote Pin clairster my biggest problem with the fujis was actually sliding sideways and coming off the outside of my foot..but it was only one foot and maybe due to a problem I have with it. I find with tying laces too tight I can then get foot pain. They did 11M in the lakes fine but I had epic problems in the mourne mountains at the weekend and couldnt seem to stay in the shoe. the terrain was hard/cut up/rocky and more challenging than the lakes one. conversely I am not liking the look of the new inov8s as I loved the old style but I may well take a look at the harriers
jacdaw Jun 2013 2:52pm, 12 Jun 2013 216 posts	Quote Pin jacdaw I have the Trailroc 255, bought for just the circumstances you describe, but it manages to be a bit clumsy compared to the minimal shoes I am used to, with an upper that is too stiff to hold my (odd shaped) feet securely, and not an especially protective sole on rough ground. So I wouldn't recommend it! I am looking for a replacement, but I always split standard (ie not "natural last") inov8s, or they destroy my feet first. I have some Terraflys which fit well, but I doubt if the grip is sufficient for most off-roading. I've had Saucony Peregrines too, for just this purpose, but again, they were too chunky and I split them after about 100 miles. Not very helpful, I know, but when you do find the answer, let me know! Otherwise I might try the Trailroc 245 (3mm drop) or 235s (zero drop). Have you looked at the reviews on Irunfar? irunfar.com
jacdaw Jun 2013 2:53pm, 12 Jun 2013 217 posts	Quote Pin jacdaw I can't even get my feet into Salomons!
santababy Jun 2013 3:09pm, 12 Jun 2013 69,196 posts	Quote Pin santababy i did the fling in my roclites and was disapointed that the heel wore away really quickly (about 200miles!) even though tread is fine so beware of that, and blisters. Have you tried Adidas Kanadia? i did 30miles day after fling in them and feet felt great. Also did glencoe to Fort william in them couple weekends ago, so exactly same route you're looking for. and theyre really good vaiue
K5 Gus Jun 2013 3:13pm, 12 Jun 2013 127 posts	Quote Pin K5 Gus I love Salomons The Speedcross3 is lower to the ground than the Speedcross2 was, but is still a 9 or 10mm differential which is too much for some. Also, it doesn't have a rock-plate in it, but a reasonable amount of cushioning under sole means it is very comfotable over long distance. This is the most versatile shoe I've ever used - great on the road and great on the hills There's a brand new Salomon out - lower, and lighter and cheaper, called the Fellraiser, which is just 6mm differential, and also the upper is more breathable - I think Castleberg are the only place that are stocking at the moment. The Salomon Sense range is the top end ultra shoes for minimalists ( and expensive ! ) - the original Sense ( 4mm drop ) is very light ( Killian runs all his 100 mile races in these ) the Sense Mantra ( linked to earlier ) is a bit beefier ( still 4mm ), and the Sense Mantra is more of a trainer, but still light with a rock-plate ( 6mm ). I have the Mantra and can bring it along to club if you want a look. ps ratrace.com have some good bargains at the moment ( lots of Inov8s ) and there is a 30% discount code on top of the existing sale prices RATRUN30. Some of the shoes are working out at about £30 !!
Craig_ Jun 2013 3:19pm, 12 Jun 2013 558 posts	Quote Pin Craig_ I've also got a pair of Adidas Riot GTX - it's basically a beefed up road shoe but it has it's uses.
HappyG(rrr) Jun 2013 4:51pm, 12 Jun 2013 20,393 posts	Quote Pin HappyG(rrr) Maybe I should just go to something like the Kanadia. They're cheap at least! The Harriers are just a big cushioned road shoe, aren't they flip? Are you just being controversial. I know you can run any terrain, in any shoe! The Salomon S-LAB is the one that Craig linked to as well Gus. I'll give that a look. Thanks all. Keep ideas coming. Read a fantastic one aboutr 100 mile training and the Governor on IRunFar.com. Will def look at any review they do. :-)G
Autumnleaves Jun 2013 4:53pm, 12 Jun 2013 2,245 posts	Quote Pin Autumnleaves I bought Kanadias for a trail run last year - I don't do a lot of offroad - they are very good value & I found them useful this winter for running in the snow. They are quite narrow fitting though.
santababy Jun 2013 5:05pm, 12 Jun 2013 69,197 posts	Quote Pin santababy I got a size up and got men's ones which are bit wider
flip Jun 2013 5:21pm, 12 Jun 2013 5,538 posts	Quote Pin flip Not a tall Happy, the mizzuno are an excellent trail and fell shoe with good protection and a grip second to none. I wear them for everything off road, fell, trail and ultra's, winter and summer including lakelland 100 which has passes that make the lundava road look paved.