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Dec 2022
1:49pm, 2 Dec 2022
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Bazoaxe
We don’t have 11+ and comprehensive/grammar schools in Scotland My state school experience was pretty grim and I prefer to forget my time at school. That maybe says more about me than the system though. |
Dec 2022
1:58pm, 2 Dec 2022
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paulcook
In hindsight, my private school experience was pretty grim and I prefer to forget about it too. I think it says more about my peers than the specifics of the system.
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Dec 2022
2:11pm, 2 Dec 2022
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macca 53
[what paulcook said - grammar school boy on a free place and therefore socially excluded. My parents could never have afforded the annual ski trips, music lessons and other stuff that most took for granted. I left at the earliest opportunity - both parties I’m sure were immensely relieved]
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Dec 2022
2:47pm, 2 Dec 2022
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DeeGee
What I did notice on my two visits to 11+ exam day was how a little community of parents had built up around doing "the circuit" of various 11+ exams in all the Grammar School towns in England's second largest county. They recognised one another from one weekend to the next; they were clearly getting their kids to sit every single 11+ so as to maximise their chances of getting in. It's just dawned on me, some of these parents were taking their kids to Gainsborough, Grantham or Spalding for the 11+. I ask myself what would have happened if a child's only 11+ success would have come from a school at the other end of the county (it's almost 2 hours by road from my home to Spalding). Would they have moved house so their child could go to the appropriate Grammar School? I'd imagine it's nice to be in a position to do that. |
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Dec 2022
2:53pm, 2 Dec 2022
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paulcook
On that theme and returning to Finland, the school closest to your home is the best one to go.
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Dec 2022
2:56pm, 2 Dec 2022
24,073 posts
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Bazoaxe
I had to walk past the school at the bottom of my road and go about a mile and a half past to get to my school. It was a quirk of circumstances and no one else near me made the same trip. If I lived 100m the other way I would have qualified for a bus pass.
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Dec 2022
3:49pm, 2 Dec 2022
3,684 posts
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GeneHunt59
I went to a comprehensive school, but the kids in the top two classes got extra special treatment. The best teachers, got to do Latin - not that I envied them. We might as well have officially had a grammar stream as we did anyway in all but name, and did before we became comprehensive. I think the school was termed a secondary modern & grammar school till 1966, but was before my time.
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Dec 2022
3:58pm, 2 Dec 2022
22,271 posts
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DeeGee
Cleethorpes used to have two grammar schools and two secondary moderns. On the abolition of Grammar Schools by Humberside County Council, the Girls' Grammar and the Girls' School merged, as did the boys' schools, but they both kept both their sites, operating an upper and a lower school. Eventually both schools became co-ed. The catchment areas were created on this basis, homes nearest to either site were in catchment for that school. However, eventually the schools moved to a single site each. The catchment schools haven't been redrawn. Additionally, there is one school which is in a sort of offshoot of Grimsby hard on the Cleethorpes border. The catchment for this school only includes houses formerly in the Borough of Great Grimsby. This leads to the insane situation that children in Cleethorpes who live right next to a primary school which shares a school field with the "Grimsby" secondary, have to walk past two secondary schools in order to get to the secondary school within which catchment they fall! |
Dec 2022
4:12pm, 2 Dec 2022
1,529 posts
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fuzzyduck79
I was at a selective grammar from age 14-18 (no hot housing/tutoring, just turned up and did their entrance exam, and looking back my education up to that point was mediocre) Being there was a huge stretch for me, the workload was insane (some GCSE subjects were a huge time sink) but the maths and science teaching was miles better than I've seen anywhere else, and turned my chances of getting in Oxbridge from non existent to average. So while I'm against elitism and selection, I think there should be some provision for meeting the needs of the top end as well, but what that means is a debate in itself. Should the brightest be allocated any additional resources? With my own children (both in state school) I am watching their development fairly closely and will casually tutor them myself where I think appropriate as I think I can make a difference, and they love the maths challenges I give them (which are mostly culled from maths competitions if anyone is looking for ideas, sometimes tweaked for accessibility) |
Dec 2022
4:45pm, 2 Dec 2022
13,884 posts
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jda
I think school is grim for a large proportion of people, regardless of privilege or type. Children are shits most of the time when they think they can get away with it, and the teachers don't really have much of a chance. School was certainly mostly unpleasant for me, albeit with a few bright spots including some good teaching in my specialist subject. Though I think having parents who take an interest is probably at least as important - my wife says her physics and maths teaching was rubbish (despite being at a good girls grammar school) but her dad being a physics lecturer probably helped! I think she was the only one of her cohort that went into science. |
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