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Marathon training, middle miles plan

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SPR
May 2012
12:08pm, 22 May 2012
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SPR
I think the Hanson schedule will make better runners and build more endurance than one skewed towards long runs. As I said, look at the days leading up to the 16s and the day after.
May 2012
12:21pm, 22 May 2012
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Fenland Runner
But in a marathon you don't get a rest after running 16 miles :-) :-)
May 2012
12:23pm, 22 May 2012
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plodding hippo
thats where I am going wrong
(books marathon with pub at16 miles)
:)
May 2012
12:25pm, 22 May 2012
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Fenland Runner
Stopping at the pub for refreshment is what you do during an Ultra :-) ;-)
May 2012
12:28pm, 22 May 2012
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plodding hippo
I cant FR

I am too slow to do that
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SPR
May 2012
12:32pm, 22 May 2012
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SPR
You're not trying to run the marathon in training. Otherwise why not just run 26 miles at race pace?
May 2012
12:35pm, 22 May 2012
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Fenland Runner
I believe that you run long to get the adaptations necessary to complete the marathon in the best time. So many people fall into the trap of running their long runs to fast because they believe it will help, it doesn't. You need to strengthen and build more mitochondria, not destroy them.
May 2012
12:54pm, 22 May 2012
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Battlecat
This year I did my 8th marathon and my first was 4 years ago (been running intotal about 5 years)

This year's training was the first time I've enjoyed all of it and got through the whole training plan without getting the tiredness that I usually do. I think it has taken 4 years of (fairly) consistent training to get to the base fitness level that you need to be to train well for a marathon so what Gobi says makes sense.

But there's a distinction to make between compete and complete. Which is the different perspectives Gobi & Mac were coming from.

In response to the OP - why not look at training plans that are based on time rather than miles? That way you can 'miss out' the 20 milers by running much slower and still get some key sessions in.
May 2012
12:57pm, 22 May 2012
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plodding hippo
Ok, on a more serious note, yes SPR, that is sort of what I do with my lots of marathons
Conventional training plans didnt do much for me
Sometimes I blow up and burn, and sometimes I pull a big pb out of the bag

Again, agree TOTALLY with building up of base fitness
May 2012
1:02pm, 22 May 2012
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Fenland Runner
Spot on, bc. It's not a very attractive headline that suggests you need to work hard for a number of year to build a base fitness level. The rw headline, four weeks to a marathon PB on 2 minutes speedwork is indicative of what the general audience wants to hear!

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