Marathon training, middle miles plan

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May 2012
1:17am, 21 May 2012
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Jammy Ant
Hi, I recently completed my first marathon in April. Training was going well until the end of January when I developed runners knee after a 150 mile month, mostly trail running.

I managed to get around the marathon in 4 hours 37 minutes, despite not running for a whole 4 weeks prior to the marathon. I have signed up for my next one this September and I am hoping to have a better performance. I was training for a sub 4 hour marathon before my injury. I started to cramp up about mile 19 on the marathon, at the half way point I was at 2 hours.

I am planning on training this year on mostly middle miles, between 12 - 15, and avoiding the bigger miles all together. I plan on running two long runs a week.

I was wondering if anyone else has done a similar training plan to this as I know most people go to about 20 - 21 miles before tapering.

Any thoughts are welcome
May 2012
8:02am, 21 May 2012
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Gobi
Jammy

An experienced marathon runner could probably get away with doing very few long runs but they would still do 1 or 2. I would say that if you want to run a much better marathon the long run is the one part of your plan you want to get right not avoid.

Good luck

G
May 2012
6:50pm, 21 May 2012
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Jammy Ant
its hard because it seems when I mover over the 17 + miles I start to get injuries, I ran the marathon completely injury free and felt fine after the run? Yet my training I was constantly battling injury after longer runs!?
May 2012
6:55pm, 21 May 2012
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SuperDave!
Were you maybe running the training lsr's too quick/hard? Just a thought.
May 2012
7:01pm, 21 May 2012
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JohnnyO
What superdave said.
And also, what Gobi said.

Run slow, think about your form. Build slowly so that you aren't knackered and you'll hopefully avoid injuries.

Having said that, I am aware of a plan that has nothing longer than 16. No idea if it works, and it's not for me. If I remember where I saw it I'll report back.
May 2012
8:26pm, 21 May 2012
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Gobi
So back to the pace of these Long runs .....
May 2012
10:35pm, 21 May 2012
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JohnnyO
Slower than slow.

The 16 mile plan is Hanson. The thread just resurfaced, with one success story. As opposed to hundreds of success stories for pootling around at conversational pace for 20miles.
Just saying.
May 2012
10:39pm, 21 May 2012
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Gobi
Brooks Hanson in the States JO ??
May 2012
10:43pm, 21 May 2012
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SuperDave!
linky link runningtimes.com
May 2012
10:47pm, 21 May 2012
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Gobi
I have studied the Hanson stuff, it is an interesting change of direction for them as a few years back they were huge fans of running full distance 5 weeks out and doing very long efforts at MP.

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