Sep 2020
10:42am, 1 Sep 2020
459 posts
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Spideog
That championship change is going to make GFA far more difficult for 2022.
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Sep 2020
11:01am, 1 Sep 2020
11,800 posts
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larkim
I suspect it'll depend on your age group.
For mine, in 2019 there were only 44 runners who ran sub 2:40 in 2019, and only a further 46 who were between 2:40 and 2:45, so those 46 would have falled out of the chance to run London Champs and had to go into GFA instead. Whether each of them would also have wanted to run London too would be debatable - maybe 75%? So still a relatively small number. Probably about 120 in the same position in the V40 age group, even more in the U40s.
They don't allocate each age group the same size of GFA entries, so I suppose one age group swelling due to the champs changes will impact all age groups overall though.
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Sep 2020
11:19am, 1 Sep 2020
8,236 posts
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jda
Also a lot will depend on how many opportunities people have in 2021 to run a decent time - there is no certainty that the fast marathons (which are usually big) will even be on.
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Sep 2020
11:27am, 1 Sep 2020
763 posts
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Reinhold Messner
For what it’s worth, the slowest man to score in a top ten Championship team in 2019 ran 2:36. To score in a medal team you’d have to have run 2:26... so limiting Championship entry to 2:40 should have no effect on the results.
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Sep 2020
11:38am, 1 Sep 2020
460 posts
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Spideog
The age group doesn't matter for championship, but if X under 40 who were previously championship now enter GFA then that eats into the total of 3000 GFA places from the faster set of times. All time bands for the different age groups get reduced by the same amount though. If all v60's only run 2 minutes under the time, but there are 500 more u40's running in the 2:40-45 time then the cut off gets brought down by those 5 minutes and you potentially end up with no v60 GFA entrants.
Won't be that extreme of course, but it's down to the u40's as to how many places the other age groups get.
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Sep 2020
12:13pm, 1 Sep 2020
11,802 posts
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larkim
Yes, agreed. In 2019 overall there were 468 men who ran between 2:40 and 2:45 so a decent proportion of them are bound to be seeking a GFA time making GFA overall tighter. I don't know whether the champs start was getting congested so they needed to tweak the numbers down there, but with no compensating expansion of the GFA places it will put pressure on all age groups.
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Sep 2020
4:43pm, 1 Sep 2020
102 posts
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Ian5
Only a 1 year qualifying window for future London's should make it a bit more straight forward in future.
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Sep 2020
4:46pm, 1 Sep 2020
17,414 posts
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Bazoaxe
Has anyone received the 1st September e-mail yet ?
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Sep 2020
4:59pm, 1 Sep 2020
247 posts
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KeithL
Never really understood why the window was larger than a year anyway
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Sep 2020
4:59pm, 1 Sep 2020
36,514 posts
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DocM
no
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