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Mar 2014
6:16pm, 6 Mar 2014
5,839 posts
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flip
Yeah Sandy , i meant the run up to Conic hill which i like so i guess 15M won't be to far off :-). And oh yes i agree with the direction Minty. I'd hate to finish that last 15.
The 2nd time i ran this i had terrible gut pains and was all for pulling out at Rowardendedendenden....I'd already decided I'd catch a lift back and enjoy some beers watching everyone come in then it all cleared up and i had to continue !
This race has so many fond memories for me. My first Ultra after Loon & Lintie convinced me to sign up (while very drunk after Loch ness marathon) , not really thinking i could do it and ended up loving every step. Brilliant Party after as well and about seven of us sharing a room 
Looking forward to being there again this year. I guess it will be a little different (but still great ) with so many runners and the finish at BytheWay.
HappyG, you're fooling no one , you'll storm it !
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Mar 2014
6:24pm, 6 Mar 2014
830 posts
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FenlandRunner
Just remember that Rowardennan is 27 miles NOT as I thought last year 26 miles I was really demoralised
Agree with flip, both STOOSH and HappyG, are going to be finished long before I get to Bein Glas!
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Mar 2014
7:18pm, 6 Mar 2014
789 posts
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RedWineRunner
M1nty: " I like how the terrain starts fairly flat and fast in the Glasgow "suburb" and gets increasingly rugged as you move further away from the metropolis into the wilderness. Conic Hill is actually on the fault line that divides the lowlands from the highlands, and mentally you feel like you've "crossed the border" after Balmaha."
M1nty you are SO right; a race of 53 miles is always going to be a journey, but the way the course unfolds makes it feel like you've transitioned from civilisation into another world. Or maybe I was just that spangled by the time I rolled into Tyndrum. Either way - I finished as a different runner from the one that started, that's for sure.
So excited!!
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Mar 2014
7:26pm, 6 Mar 2014
831 posts
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FenlandRunner
Being a flat land fen dweller, I like the first part, with one exception, the bloody gates!!!
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Mar 2014
7:33pm, 6 Mar 2014
70,236 posts
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santababy
Good thing about the mass start, pace yourself right behind someone to open the gates
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Mar 2014
7:40pm, 6 Mar 2014
800 posts
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joint ear knee
I was a trail ultra newbie on 3:01 marathon legs last year. I'd done a couple of 40 mile run/walks before but that was it.
I got my race head on and started working out time splits I wanted to do, paces, wrote it all out on printed bits of map. I don't even remeber my target but I think it wa 10:30.
I would seriously reccomend not doign anything whatseover like this if it's your first time. Terrain is a big part of it, as is eating and all the usual ultra advice, the fling was a massive learnin experience.
I pootled on the flat at 8:30 pace. tapped up conic hill and went too fast down it to give some guy back a glove he'd dropped. eating/stomach issues meant a mile walking after balmaha and a hundred people plodded past me. by Bein Glas i needed a 15 minute site down in a ditch and a serious word with msyelf. there was much walking from there and a huge amount of "what the hell am i getting out of this?" pain and darkness. I made sure I ran through the forest as much as I could and remember giving :)G a big pat on the back for his sub 3 @ London....."you're nearly there" a lady shouted from the gate..."the piper is waitig for you"...then i could hear him, then I was crying, then somneone put a bottle of the best tasting beer in the world in my hand and I was totally lost for words, in a tent, eating soup. The time was irrelevant (12hours something).
This year I'll have a garmn on "for reasearch purposes only" and will tape over the display. I've managed a few other ultras last summer and got the knack up to 60 miles...if you can keep you legs my boy when those about you are loosing theirs.....
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Mar 2014
7:46pm, 6 Mar 2014
832 posts
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FenlandRunner
I couldn't do that SB. Even though some runners, seem to take advantage, no names, but somebody at the sharp end appeared to boast about it. Last year it worked that a lady was always opening the gates, after a few I deliberately sped up so I could do my share.
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Mar 2014
7:50pm, 6 Mar 2014
70,238 posts
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santababy
I do recall last yr thinking you were being optimistic about that predicted time. I've beaten many a sub 3 marathoner over ultra distance. All a massive learning curve for sure
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Mar 2014
7:52pm, 6 Mar 2014
70,239 posts
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santababy
FR , I was biggest critic of Stuart Mills, I thought what he did was appealing. He knew he'd never beat jazz that day. I would never not hold a gate for someone behind me, last yr there was plenty people around so was never a problem
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Mar 2014
9:29pm, 6 Mar 2014
2,203 posts
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STOOSH
I got a lesson at GO33 last year, don't run ultras at marathon pace, longest 5m of my life that day!!
The good thing for me is London is 2wks before the fling so i'll still be broken and my legs won't see the good side of a 9min mile. I do expect to blow up somewhere along the route and watch runners flow past me ( just hoping i'm past 10m by that stage;-))
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