Heart rate

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Jan 2009
9:09pm, 2 Jan 2009
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Deeks
After training using %HR for the last 4-6 weeks I read this article ...

pponline.co.uk

"you might practise running at 6:25 per mile during training, a level of effort which consistently causes your heart to settle in at 90 per cent of max. In a race, that same pace might shoot your cardiac centre up to 93-94 per cent of max, but the pace won't feel any more difficult than it did during training. You can keep it up, despite the higher heart rate. Meanwhile, if you were glued to 90 per cent of max heart rate, you'd run the race more slowly than you actually could."

In other words this research suggests I should train and race using pace rather than %hr or risk running a slow race.

Any comments fellow %hr runners??
Jan 2009
3:42pm, 3 Jan 2009
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Loca
I train with HR but I never wear my HRM in races. The added stress and adrenaline will push the HR higher than in training so in my opinion you can't really race with HR, only pace. But I think using HR in training makes a big difference especialy for keeping long runs and easy runs at the right intensity.
Jan 2009
4:03pm, 3 Jan 2009
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As I understand it Hadd uses a technique of developing endurance base through making sure that the athlete never gets too far into anaerobic running. This has the effect of developing everything necessary for endurance. As a side effect of this the pace you will run for a given heart rate rises. This happens when we train aerobically regardless of system used. If you train to a pace that's fine but you still have to work out at which pace your aerobic threshold is so that you can ensure you train under it for a large proportion of the time.

The Hadd system is progessive though and uses regular checks to guage increases in performance - i.e. teh 2400 tests. Basically you should see our paces rise for a given heart rate over time.

Basically, faster runners make it look easier because it is easier for them due to their training. They can sustain much faster paces for a comparitively lower heart rate which delays teh point at which they go into more aerbic running.

Oh and yes, running to a pace can be difficult in hilly areas - you have to take that into account.
Jan 2009
11:16pm, 5 Jan 2009
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Deeks
I like the sound of the HADD system for long distance hill running - is there a book or website where I can learn more?
Jan 2009
3:04pm, 13 Jan 2009
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RooA
Hello.

Got a RHR and a MaxHR.

What now?

lol
Jan 2009
3:06pm, 13 Jan 2009
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bigmunnki
Did I win? Was it 45?
Jan 2009
3:06pm, 13 Jan 2009
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RooA
Not even close. It was 193.
Jan 2009
3:07pm, 13 Jan 2009
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bigmunnki
No cup of vomit for me then!
Jan 2009
3:07pm, 13 Jan 2009
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RooA
Nope.
Jan 2009
3:09pm, 13 Jan 2009
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Hendo
Mind the trap door.

About This Thread

Maintained by Elderberry
Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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