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Jun 2007
9:30am, 12 Jun 2007
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Hendo
Remember also Hellen that your last mara was done in adverse conditions.... the same training would probably bring different results on the day.
Jun 2007
12:59pm, 12 Jun 2007
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eL Bee!
Hellen - be VERY aware of overtraining!

This is you 3rd marathon in about 6 months!

And most would say that you can only EFFECTIVELY train for 2 in a year.

Your choice is Quality or Quantity... you can't have both!

You can either
Jun 2007
1:07pm, 12 Jun 2007
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eL Bee!
oops

...run lots of samey marathons - or target a good one!
Jun 2007
3:55pm, 12 Jun 2007
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Velociraptor
I did a perceived-effort run today and ended up with an average of 69%WHR. BUT that average figure conceals a range from about 63% to 74%, including a short spike up to about 80% on the last hill.

Is it still OK to call that sub-70% run, or should I be putting the bleeper back on and aiming to run every step at under 70%?
Jun 2007
4:28pm, 12 Jun 2007
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Big Al Widepants
Interesting question Vrap

"lurks"
Jun 2007
4:29pm, 12 Jun 2007
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Hendo
The latter vrap...

I think Parker (the book guru man) gives you an "allowance" on hills and in heat of 5%, but the "rule" is sub 70% all the way round.
Jun 2007
4:31pm, 12 Jun 2007
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Girlie
If thats's the case Vrap, I'll never do a true sub 70% run on the undulating roads I run up and down!
Avg out under 70% and last LSR virtually every mile avg under 70% as well.

Surely you have to allow for natural fluctuations in HR that send it up and down 1 or 2 beats per minute?
Jun 2007
4:38pm, 12 Jun 2007
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Velociraptor
Bah. Pooh. Knickers. That's what I thought, Hendo :(

I blogged the heretical stuff a couple of weeks ago. But what Mr Parker says doesn't pass through the common-sense filter. After nearly 6 years of running, and a year of sustained training without getting injured or burnt out, the notion that I should be walking up little hills that I'm capable of running up is just plain silly. It is, isn't it?
Jun 2007
4:38pm, 12 Jun 2007
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I never let one or two beats worry me just as long as it isn't over for very long. I aim for at least 95% of the run to be under 70%. The odd blip isn't cruicial in my view. However, don't let that run away with you because it is very easy to trick yourself and before you know it you have run five miles at 75%! :-) The trick is, forget pace, hills and all that, just concentrate on keeping your HR below the 70%...

80% though at any time I would say pretty much trashes the session...
Jun 2007
4:40pm, 12 Jun 2007
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No vrap because the hills I used to have to walk up I can now run up because I stuck with it. I can run up the steepest of hills now too since learning how to run very slowly...:-)

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Maintained by Elderberry
Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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