Heart rate

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7:42pm, 16 Feb 2009
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Surrey, HRM training allows you to develop a better aerobic base by training aerobically.

Look at this article in the Physiology of Base Training bit...

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Feb 2009
7:51pm, 16 Feb 2009
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surreystriderâ„¢
Thanks Ian, great article.

One last question (for now). Will I see much benefit in my marathon time in 12 weeks if I'm only starting HR training now? Or should I actually expect a worse time with the benefit coming much later?

I'm done.
Feb 2009
8:02pm, 16 Feb 2009
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eL Bee!
FR - no! :)
Feb 2009
8:50pm, 16 Feb 2009
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Peacey
Ian, thanks for that link. Very interesting.
Feb 2009
9:11pm, 16 Feb 2009
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Deenzy
Agreed, nice article Ian, thanks. His example athlete has training paces not too dissimilar to my own, I was only thinking the other day that I very rarely ever run in the 8mm pace because it is bang in the middle of my grey zone.... hopefully next year it wont be!!

I think this section is very relevant to this thread:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there."
Feb 2009
9:27pm, 16 Feb 2009
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Gobi
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have not been online for 2 days so apolgies if I have any questions but too many posts to read back.

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Feb 2009
9:35pm, 16 Feb 2009
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Hendo
Gobi is slacking.

Ian posted this link a good while ago, and is also very useful in terms of the kind of paces/HR you should be looking at...

teamoregon.com
Feb 2009
9:36pm, 16 Feb 2009
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Hendo
Deenzy - great quote

"This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there."

Lets say that lots here to those who diss the grey area!!

GET ON THE TRAP DOOR :-O
Feb 2009
9:39pm, 16 Feb 2009
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That quote should be on the thread header Hendog :-)

Gobi: Good to see you back :-)
Feb 2009
9:41pm, 16 Feb 2009
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eL Bee!
< chuckle >

All running at all intensities trains both aerobic and anaerobic systems - just in different ratios :)
There isn't a point at which one switches on - and the other off!!
;)

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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