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18 Nov
3:38pm, 18 Nov 2022
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Dave, I would be thinking of something like months or even years as the timescale for improvement for training this way. Or rather, you will see benefits probably in weeks, but those benefits will tend to accrue slowly over a long timespan, whereas if you were to go for something like HIIT, you'd improve quickly and then plateau after a while.
18 Nov
3:41pm, 18 Nov 2022
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I tried to explain it this way

Controlled hr training bring controlled progression but also the good base means that during the off season thanks to good base you do not lose as much fitness

Hiit has the ability to spring you forward quickly but you lose it all just as quickly
19 Nov
10:15am, 19 Nov 2022
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Dave A
20.10 at Parkrun. Ave pace of 6.33 and max hr of 187. Average was 177.

I’ve seen higher on the max this year. I timed my effort at the end wrong. I should have done it based on distance to go. What I actually did was up the top end effort based on how long I thought was left to go. It turned out that it wasn’t as long as I thought.
Not to worry. A good blast out. Negative split. And a reasonable pace considering I’ve been running 10 mm’s recently and haven’t gone any properly structured speed work for years.

I’ll go back in about 6 weeks and see if more base training has improved results.

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

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A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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