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Oct 2020
9:09pm, 9 Oct 2020
31,933 posts
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SPR
Just turned on training status to check the recovery advisor text currently and it looks like the training advice bit is gone and it will just advise you how your recovery is going from now on (remember I'm on the 245 beta)
Still has the green around the edge that used to indicate train as normal.
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Oct 2020
9:11pm, 9 Oct 2020
31,934 posts
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SPR
If recovery improves or declines, you'll be able to press the top right button to see more about it.
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Oct 2020
11:24pm, 9 Oct 2020
2,295 posts
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Fitz
Thanks Badger (prev page), I'll try the various reset options and if that doesn't fix it I may well take you up on that. ๐
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Oct 2020
11:09am, 12 Oct 2020
19,471 posts
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flanker
SPR I think you are still technically correct on the newer devices that recovery is not cumulative, but as I'm pretty certain (just from experience, no reference) it uses the previous entries to calculate performance/recovery levels it effectively does.
It's also makes sense that it does
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Oct 2020
11:18am, 12 Oct 2020
31,964 posts
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SPR
Flanker - in theory it doesn't need to be cumulative to look cumulative. If the recovery calcs are correct then the watch should read that you need the extra recovery from HRV at the start of the activity then whatever you see after the activity will depend on whether things get 'worse' or stay the same during the activity.
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Oct 2020
11:21am, 12 Oct 2020
31,965 posts
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SPR
Performance condition should in theory be a stat based on how well recovered you are so it makes sense that the watch can assess at each activity.
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Oct 2020
11:50am, 12 Oct 2020
19,472 posts
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flanker
I agree it could be entirely HRV based, but my gut feeling is that it isn't. And no, I've got no proof for that at all other than experience of it over the last year or two
I suppose I could track HRV and recovery times to see if they correlate directly over time ... but the stress of trying to remember to do so would probably effect the HRV reading (& I CBA)
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Oct 2020
12:56pm, 12 Oct 2020
31,966 posts
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SPR
Lol @ HRV monitoring increasing stress. HRV is something that I haven't tried monitoring myself TBH. Would definitely be interested in findings if someone else did it though.
I won't say it definitely isn't cumulative at all as we've seen with VO2 Max that what Garmin say doesn't always match what happens. It's definitely smarter than this run would normally lead to 8 hours recovery and you have 48 hours recovery previously, therefore recovery is 56 hours. I presume you're not seeing simple additions like this?
On my 230, it was possibly for recovery needed after run to be less than what I started out with as it couldn't do the 24 hr monitoring needed to adjust between runs.
With the 245, as said previously said, the best I've seen is no increase in recovery needs due to the run which I put down to having 24 hr monitoring now.
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Oct 2020
1:26pm, 12 Oct 2020
19,476 posts
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flanker
No, not seeing simple addition. Simplifying somewhat, but what I'm seeing is that after a proper shiort, easy run (the sort of run where I'd expect recovery to be 0-4 hrs) the time reflects the remaining time from the previous activity, but for harder efforts it increases. Whether it increases by the full amount I'd expect from a run from "recovered" I'm not sure, but I don't think so.
It's almost as if the "train as usual" type runs don't impact previous recovery times.
Now I've piqued my own interest I might start logging such things. Down another rabbit hole we go...
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Oct 2020
1:37pm, 12 Oct 2020
31,967 posts
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SPR
Let us know your findings.
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