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Sep 2020
3:58pm, 21 Sep 2020
12,018 posts
larkim
As for why it's 3.5 - that's the relationship between one MET (Metabolic Equivalent) and VO2Max (or something along those lines).

https://www.phoenix.gov/fire/directory/health-center/health-and-fitness-newsletters/exercise-workouts/output#:~:text=The%20term%20MET%20(metabolic%20equivalent,of%20energy%20required%20to%20sleep.&text=VO2%20Max%20is%20the%20maximum,%2Fkg%2Fmin%20or%20METs.

I'm sure that's not an authoratitive source but it'll do for the purposes of now.
Sep 2020
3:59pm, 21 Sep 2020
12,019 posts
larkim
scielo.br

A different link as that one didn't seem to work.

I wonder if some / one of the Garmin user settings implies a different MET conversion?
SPR
Sep 2020
4:02pm, 21 Sep 2020
31,550 posts
SPR
Re the link above, get rid of everything from the # onwards and it'll work (that's just a description of the link).
Sep 2020
4:07pm, 21 Sep 2020
12,020 posts
larkim
Aha, thanks, makes sense.

For Stu and Flanker who supplied numbers for the VO2Max calc - would you mind finding out what the VO2Max (by file) values were for your preceding and antecedent runs? Just looking back at RA for my log, the entry where the calculation doesn't work seems to match precisely with the previous value recorded.
Sep 2020
4:18pm, 21 Sep 2020
19,419 posts
flanker
Are you wondering if there wasn't enough effort, for the want of another word, in the activity to generate a new value, so it returned the previous one? I can see the logic in that.

FWIW I'd say there is a difference between reformatting a timestamp and mathematically altering a value from the fit file, as the latter is actually altering the data and could introduce variations. But I am being pedantic :-)

I'll check the previous value(s).
( btw SPR - it was the file value)
SPR
Sep 2020
4:21pm, 21 Sep 2020
31,551 posts
SPR
That whole site seems to be down now anyway Larkim.

Flanker - Sorry, misread your post.
Sep 2020
4:23pm, 21 Sep 2020
19,420 posts
flanker
the (file) value hasn't changed for nearly a month(!), and none of the previous entries prior to the last change correspond to the calculated value.
Sep 2020
4:23pm, 21 Sep 2020
12,021 posts
larkim
Sort of. I know my watch is unusual in that as of today it definitely reports the value as it was at the start of the activity, rather than recalculated at the end. But even so, every time I ran the /1024*3.5 calc against the .fit file values it came out precisely as the figure showing on RA. However, for one from 2016 the calc didn't work, but I just casually noticed that the value that the calc would have been expected to outturn was precisely the same as the value that RA reported from the previous activity.

I tried deleting and reimporting that .fit file from Garmin, and it still came out with the "wrong" number, so there's something in that file which tells it to tweak the value - I've just not discovered what it is!!
Sep 2020
4:25pm, 21 Sep 2020
12,022 posts
larkim
Interesting flanker. There's more to this then!!
SPR
Sep 2020
4:27pm, 21 Sep 2020
31,552 posts
SPR
That's interesting Larkim. Given it's calculating correctly straight away, it can't be related to the 70% threshold.

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