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Bushy Park time trials

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Sep 2006
11:06am, 11 Sep 2006
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Gobi
I care Cat :¬)

will fetch you some sessions do you have access to a track and a hill?
Sep 2006
11:07am, 11 Sep 2006
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Gobi
I would recommend to anyone who races wearing a garmin or an HR monitor NOT to wear them.

You will run faster
Sep 2006
11:09am, 11 Sep 2006
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you may have something there Gobi, especially for the shorter races. What about a watch Gobi is that allowed?
Sep 2006
11:17am, 11 Sep 2006
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Caterpillar
I am completely unconvinced about heart rate monitors at present anyway, and have completely gone off the idea of getting a Garmin since reading all the hassles people have with them. Not much of a gadget man am I? I do have a watch but I was thinking a calendar would be accurate enough for me.

I'll upload photos this evening.

I do have access to a track - Walton AC - though I absolutely never go there. Mrs C thinks running takes up too much of my time as it is. Tappers - I can use the track can't I?

Hill. Hmm. How big? I have a couple of small local hills in Oxshott common, but I have to drive to Dorking for something that takes more than ten minutes to get up.
Sep 2006
11:20am, 11 Sep 2006
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Gobi
Tapper

a watch and knowledge of the course will get you pb

cat. ok a big field/park just a hill about 200 metres long with a resonable climb
Sep 2006
12:46pm, 11 Sep 2006
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Kieren
I totally agree with Gobi that you'll run faster without the HR monitor / GPS. I'm wearing a HR monitor at the moment & I have found that I listen to it rather than my body. I run slower than I can for fear that I might have nothing left in the tank towards the end.

The result of this was running BPTT 36 seconds slower than my PB a month ago & given all the extra training I've been doing I would have expected to have at least matched if not beaten my PB.

I have to wear the HRM to record it's readings but next week I shall be taping up the display so that I can't look at it during the race.
Sep 2006
1:00pm, 11 Sep 2006
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Gobi
I'm training on an HR for certain runs which is useful but in racing your HR on avg will be 10BPM higher due to adrenoline so therefore you slow down due to panic.

I have seen this for real where my hr was 180+ and I still had over 2 miles to go I was able to just keep pushing as I know about this stuff :¬) but I raced an ultra with a guy who wanted pacing and he wore a HR monitor and slowed down when his HR went out of zone. Complete bollocks as we were not pushing that hard.
Sep 2006
1:10pm, 11 Sep 2006
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Hollywoof!
With BPTT I use variety - it's there every week so I switch between racing naked, semi-naked and fully gadgeted up.

I don't tend to use HR data anyway - so can't comment on its helpfulness for pacing - but have liked to see the km by km averages afterwards - always good to see them over 190.

I do think the GPS is helpful for judging pace - probably more so in long races rather than short - I often now use it to measure (rather than judge) what my current kilometer pace is.

And in the 5km I don't think I've ever used it to tell me to slow down... it only ever tells me I'm doing OK or (more often) that I'm going too slow...
Sep 2006
1:14pm, 11 Sep 2006
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Gobi
RUN FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 2006
1:17pm, 11 Sep 2006
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Hollywoof!
I think there is a genuine problem at BPTT that if you run faster than 20 minutes you don't get to see any ladies during the race. Hence men around the 21 minute mark don't really want to get any faster.

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