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Pricey_ Jan 2008 3:53pm, 23 Jan 2008 54 posts	Quote Pin Pricey_ good link that daviec. There's alot of info there but once you've got your head around it, it's pretty good. It's based on the Jack Daniels formula, which as I said above, is what I use to calc my training paces. Will save that to my computer. The different tempo paces are very good. I ran a 5m tempo last night and was a bit disappointed that I averaged 4 secs slower than my target, but given the adjustments in the spreadsheet, I was actually just inside target pace.
Jan 2008 4:11pm, 23 Jan 2008 424 posts	Quote Pin I don't have Daniel's book yet so the intensity points are a bit beyond me so I just hide them. I find the rest of the sheet very useful.
hellen Jan 2008 10:09am, 24 Jan 2008 2,399 posts	Quote Pin hellen really good table, thanks paces are quite differnt though for my recent 6mile race compared to my actual marathon time. Should I go with the 6 mile race or with my best marathon (I havnt really improved since my last marathon I just dont seem to beable to get what shorter races predict for various reasons)
mxhornet Jan 2008 10:22am, 24 Jan 2008 9,246 posts	Quote Pin mxhornet Sp 4 secs is not a lot and I wouldn't worry
Jan 2008 10:31am, 24 Jan 2008 425 posts	Quote Pin I had a chance to study that spreadsheet properly last night and there's loads to play with there. Hellen, use your most recent race time to get your training paces. Lots of people struggle to achieve the marathon time their shorter races predict but you still want to train in the correct zones to get most benefit from each session.
hellen Jan 2008 10:44am, 24 Jan 2008 2,400 posts	Quote Pin hellen easy aerobic pace differs by about 30s!! Which pace do I use for my LSR? The spreadsheet was a bit odd cos when I tried to print it it would only print 1 page, then when I highlighted it is printed the whole lot but all on one page so it is tiny!!! What is the weight thing all about, it gives teh weight for long distnace runnners, is that what it is telling me I should be or is that what the elite shoudl be?
Jan 2008 10:44am, 24 Jan 2008 11,882 posts	Quote Pin Brilliant spread sheet there! Like it!:-)
B Rubble Jan 2008 10:48am, 24 Jan 2008 203 posts	Quote Pin B Rubble Thanks for the sheet Davie, I must now take some time to work out what it means. I've nearly finished reading the P&D book. Maybe Daniels is the next one to look at (I have "Lore of running" but don't think I'll be reading the whole thing for a while). Does anyone have the title of the book, or even better an Amazon link?
B Rubble Jan 2008 10:50am, 24 Jan 2008 204 posts	Quote Pin B Rubble Just noticed it at the bottom of the sreadsheet. For anyone else interested: amazon.co.uk
B Rubble Jan 2008 10:51am, 24 Jan 2008 205 posts	Quote Pin B Rubble sPreadsheet