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Advanced Marathoning by P&D Any tried the schedules?

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Oct 2010
9:58pm, 19 Oct 2010
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Son of a Pronator Man
I'd just like to tell you that me and my training partner followed the P&D 55-75 miles per week schedule leading up to the Amsterdam marathon. I never made the start line because of an injury picked up in the last week of training but she did, and ran 3:05:33 to be 2nd female 45-50 in her first marathon. The schedules worked for her !
Oct 2010
7:24am, 20 Oct 2010
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Mrs Jigs (Luverlylegs)
Sorry to hear about your injury and non start SoaPM :( Well done to your friend, terrific time! :)
Oct 2010
8:39am, 20 Oct 2010
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Bree
That is bad news about your injury SoaPM.

I've done about 11 weeks of the 18 week up to 55 plan now and am certainly working hard. Had a little niggle last week, but this week is a recovery week and I am hoping that has sorted it. I've also read the book again and understood the schedules better which will allow me to replan my version in a way that is more to my liking.

Onwards!
Oct 2010
8:53am, 20 Oct 2010
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Fenland Runner
Mrs Jigs, are you on the 55 or 70 mile schedule?
Oct 2010
9:12am, 20 Oct 2010
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HappyG(rrr)
I was on the up to 55 miles, 18 week schedule last year and got 30 mins off my mara time to get 3:12. I didn't follow it strictly, more of a "following the principles." I peaked at about 70 miles for a couple of weeks, lower for others and missed out most of the intervals. Tempos were vague.

And I added in somethign that didn't appear in P&D which was MP sections within the Long Runs - that was a tip from Boab. Have I missed something in P&D, or do they not have much in terms of pace in the Long Runs - I didn't see anything about MP in Long Runs. Nor progressive runs. I really think that these things are what help to sharpen the pace and to also allow the pace to endure. Anyway, not on P&D this time - have switched to Furman for injury reasons. Good luck P&Ders! :-)G
Oct 2010
9:41am, 20 Oct 2010
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Bree
HappyG, there are two marathon specific long runs in that schedule: 15m with 12m @MP and 17m with 14m @MP.

I've done the first. Hoping I can manage the second!
Oct 2010
9:44am, 20 Oct 2010
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Bree
In general I find the long runs a little short in the 55 week schedule. I'm doing mine mostly as 20s. Keeping those MP specific ones as they are though.
Oct 2010
10:00am, 20 Oct 2010
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paul the builder
G - I have the opposite issue with P&D, although maybe the difference is that I have my impression from looking at the 55-70 schedule, versus your up to 55 schedule. I thought the long runs in the 55-70 were too few, and too quick (or alternatively the quick sections in them were too long). Although in the up to 55, I think 14m at MP is probably unecessary, and maybe too hard.

I thought the 55-70 was light on long runs, so I would always do more. And then I chose to do the MP work as part of a midweek longer run.
Oct 2010
12:46pm, 20 Oct 2010
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Mrs Jigs (Luverlylegs)
FR - 70 miles / 18 weeks
Oct 2010
1:41pm, 20 Oct 2010
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Minni
Can anyone tell me where I can find P & D schedules?

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