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Advanced Marathoning by P&D Any tried the schedules?

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Feb 2008
12:42am, 23 Feb 2008
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IanRunner
Hi.

I was just wondering how everyones training was going, who is using the schedules from Advanced Marathoning. I have been following it alot closely over the past few weeks after coming back from a calf injury and it is working well for. The heart rate advice for the the long runs has reallly helped me.
Feb 2008
12:38pm, 23 Feb 2008
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Widger
I lurve, lurve, lurve the P&D plan that I'm following, just the right mix of hard/easy for me and I just wish I'd followed it last year when I bought it!

Having said that I injured my back on monday slipping on some ice so a VERY easy week for me this week ;-)
Feb 2008
2:11pm, 23 Feb 2008
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hellen
I like them too but find it difficult fitting two medium long runs in in a week. they often end up being on tues eve and wed am which is quite difficult.

Am looking forward to using them again (I know I have not finished them this time) for my Autumn marathon as I will be on holiday for 7 weeks in the summer so it will be much easier!
Feb 2008
4:18pm, 23 Feb 2008
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Pricey_
Going well for me, mileage peaking this week at next (70 in each). Feeling strong and looking forward to London in April
Mar 2008
8:23pm, 18 Mar 2008
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IanRunner
Hope everyone's training is still going well.

Just a quick question about the intervals in P&D. TodayI did 8 miles with 5 x 600 metres at 5k pace with 90secs of jogging inbetween . I set up an advanced workout on the garmin so it was straightforward but I was wondering what is the best time to do them. I did 4 miles then did the intervals, the finished off with the last 1.5 miles or so. Is this the best way to do them or should i have done the intervals earlier on in the run?

Also the intervals, they were at around my 5k pace, but I haven't done a 5k since the summer so they seemed a bit easy and my heart rate for them wasnt paricularly high around 80%. Is this alright or should I push it abit harder?

Im really enjoying the schedule, seems to be working well. Im doing the 18 week upto 55 miles schedule.
Mar 2008
9:17pm, 18 Mar 2008
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Pricey_
Ian, I'd probably be tempted to do 3 miles then the intervals giving you 2.5 miles recovery at the end. Don't think it really matters too much though, providing you have sufficient warm-up / recovery.

As for pace, your HR should definitely be higher than 80%, should probably be closer to 90%.

Am doing the 18 week up to 70 miles and finding it excellent. Knocked 4 mins off my Half marathon PB the other week and am looking forward to FLM
Mar 2008
9:50pm, 18 Mar 2008
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hellen
Ian, yes, I agree with S, intervals should be harder than 80%.
I find after I have done intervals I am quite teird so prefer to have a longer WU and shorter CD. The other week I was a bit mad and did something like 2miles WU, intervals, 1mile cool down to gym, body pump class then 2mile run home. That well and truely knackered me. I think the thing about doing a longer CD is that you are running on tierd legs so I suppose for marathon training that is good (although hard!!)
Mar 2008
11:29pm, 18 Mar 2008
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IanRunner
Thanks, its my first time of trying intervals so I wasnt sure how to feel. Will definitely try and go faster next time.

Good work on your half pb Stephen!
Mar 2008
7:07am, 19 Mar 2008
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Impossible is Nothing
Nearly time for the taper!
Mar 2008
7:11am, 19 Mar 2008
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I've usually split the distance half and half between warm up and cool down round intervals which works fine for me.

I've been delighted with the results from the P&D plan. I took 6 and a half minutes of my half PB. I'm into the 3 week taper section now, so the hardest work is by with. :)

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