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Joopsy Nov 2007 11:46am, 12 Nov 2007 174 posts	0 Joopsy Did 12.58m on Sunday at 70%. Strayed over a couple of times but not by much and I really have seen my times getter faster as I have got further on from my illness. What was 12mm two weeks ago on the back of illness has now moved on to 10:27mm! This just goes to show how much it can be affected. HR training rocks!
hellen Nov 2007 12:22pm, 12 Nov 2007 2,110 posts	0 hellen If you use your stick on your calves girlie then that should help with the tightness you get from speed/tempo runs. I have read that tempo runs are better for marathon trianing that intervals anyway!
Ted Nov 2007 1:41pm, 12 Nov 2007 491 posts	0 Ted 'minced' that term is underused IMHO. Nice usage Girlie
Girlie Nov 2007 1:58pm, 12 Nov 2007 1,568 posts	0 Girlie T3d- I often mince tbh- it's my running style! You'll see it in action in my next few races!
Boab Nov 2007 10:11pm, 12 Nov 2007 1,641 posts	0 Boab Grey Area - can someone give me some typical examples of this please? 10k race pace and 75% WHR pace would suffuce thanks, just trying to understand what it is.
eL Bee! Nov 2007 10:14pm, 12 Nov 2007 2,152 posts	0 eL Bee! Marathon Pace - for, say 10 miles. Too hard to be easy - to easy to be hard ½ Marathon Pace for, say 7 miles. ----------------------- " -----------------------
Boab Nov 2007 10:25pm, 12 Nov 2007 1,642 posts	0 Boab ah, so there is a distance/time variable to it. That makes sense now, so 18-20 miles at marathon pace is too long to be easy? And you probably won't stay in the grey zone for all of that run, would that be correct?
eL Bee! Nov 2007 10:33pm, 12 Nov 2007 2,153 posts	0 eL Bee! 18-20 miles at marathon race pace will tend to fall in the 78-82% WHR area. So yes - too hard to be easy - and some would classify your long run anyway as a hard session, even if you do it at Recovery Ceiling HR! There are few marathon programmes that would advocate running your longer runs AT marathon pace - certainly doing 18-20 miles with 14 of them at marathon pace, late on in your programme, will make sense. TBH the idea of Grey Zone is a bit woolly. Because runs of ALL intensities have their place in addressing specific training needs. I think that runs without a specific purpose fall into the category of 'Grey' (
Nov 2007 10:42pm, 12 Nov 2007 11,163 posts	0 So if a person's training objectives were to train at below 70%WHR on easy days and at or ABOVE 85%WHR on hard days one could say that if all of said person's runs fell into between 70%WHR and LESS THAN 85% WHR then that person would be training outside of the original purpose of their training regime. Put simply, they would be training in the grey area would they not?
eL Bee! Nov 2007 10:44pm, 12 Nov 2007 2,154 posts	0 eL Bee! In that particular case yes, Ian. If their training goals were being served by those parameters, then runs that fell without said parameters could be said to be without specific purpose!

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"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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