The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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11:29am
11:29am, 26 Apr 2017
26609 posts
HappyG(rrr)
Jovi, that's how I feel about it. If you feel fresh at 16 or 18, push on, but at 10, 12 you should feel like you are jogging and that is no time to push on because of course you're going to feel great. The first 16 or even 18 are just a warm up! :-) G
11:33am
11:33am, 26 Apr 2017
5307 posts
Huntsman
I'd have to run the first 16 miles at 8m/m pace to be able to speed up for the last 10. It would be more like a training run.

I've written contradictory posts today. I'm going into a dark room to think.
SPR
11:36am
11:36am, 26 Apr 2017
23948 posts
SPR
The 2:30 runners are likely attacking the marathon and were likely aiming for faster times. If you aren't being conservative, a positive split is likely because you are on the edge of what you can do, not because it is the plan
11:41am
11:41am, 26 Apr 2017
26611 posts
HappyG(rrr)
Any more VLM blogs coming...? I like a good read over lunch time! Postie's and Bazo's were both very good. More please! :-) G
11:50am
11:50am, 26 Apr 2017
4412 posts
postieboy
I think nearly everyone who has put in a decent amount of training is looking to attack the marathon, regardless of what time they are aiming for. How you attack it though is matter for debate as we are seeing here now.
12:42pm
12:42pm, 26 Apr 2017
209 posts
donran
I've managed a negative split in the last three marathons, admittedly only 8 seconds or so on Sunday, but a few minutes in London and Berlin last year. I try not to bother myself in the first two to three miles and pick my way through the congestion without worrying too much about pace. Get to halfway feeling as comfortable as possible then try to build up as much as I can muster in the second half.

After Sunday I was beginning to wonder whether hitting the right pace a bit earlier would be beneficial. Agree with Tizer's point that increased heart rate earlier on might be counterproductive though. Something I may try differently in the autumn.

About This Thread

For those who want to go sub 3.15 in a marathon and/or those that have already done it and want to give advice. Share your journey (or help somone else's!) here.

Spring 2017 plans for racing, or participating for fun/training purposes(*):
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May 20 - White Peak - Joe Hawk
May 21 - Windermere - KinkyS, Joe Hawk
May 21 - Stirling - Son of a Pronator Man, SM6, STOOSH
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Medal! Liquid carbs For Santa! *fist-bump* etc.
The 2017 roll of honour - here's the folk who clocked sub-3:15 so far this year:
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(sub-3er's can be found elsewhere ;-))

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