The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread
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Jul 2016
3:02pm, 29 Jul 2016
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paul the builder
BR - I'm getting deja vu; that's pretty much my 2015 you're going to go through. You'll get there though. Nelly - nice mileage indeed. Does August look similar? |
Jul 2016
3:07pm, 29 Jul 2016
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B Rubble
Exactly Paul. I confess to looking at your training from that time. I'm not quite as disciplined as you (stupidly went out with group one from the running club on Tuesday and had to bail) but I'm attempting to build gradually without breaking myself.
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Jul 2016
3:19pm, 29 Jul 2016
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jdarun
GavD, certainly right. Jack Daniels plan is 18 weeks of proper structure but even that has 6 additional weeks of building up steady mileage. A bare 12 weeks would certainly not be enough for me at my current level, that's for sure. At least, not if I wanted a good result.
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Jul 2016
3:25pm, 29 Jul 2016
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Nelly
Thanks Uyuni. Are you aiming for 1:25 for Robin Hood HM?  Paul, I must admit, my mileage increase has been helped significantly by taking a leaf out of your book and adding a weekly run commute. Although I decided 2 x 11-13milers was too much for me in a single day, so I run home one day and back into the office the following morning. My cut-back week in August will be much more pronounced, and 8-days long, due to a family holiday, so in all likelihood my total August mileage will be a little lower than this month, but still hopefully somewhere close to my pre-Manchester peak month. BR - nice to see you back on the thread (and luna aswell). From what I've seen on |
Jul 2016
3:42pm, 29 Jul 2016
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Uyuni
That's the plan although it might be a tad ambitious. Things have gone really well over the shorter distances this summer so I hope to be a bit quicker than the 1:28 I did in the spring, and it is far easier course. Need to start focusing on the marathon though, I've got a month after the Robin Hood so a couple of 200 mile months from now would be good |
Jul 2016
3:55pm, 29 Jul 2016
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Bazoaxe
Just been off to look at nelly's log to see what I have been missing......nice mileage.... and within a weekend of surpassing my current annual mileage total and Jan -Mar were record months for me...albeit June and July have fallen off an injury ridden cliff Wise words on the pre training plan training plan......my good marathons have pretty much all come after a spell of decent mileage before the plan starts. Those where I have been playing catch up have unsurprisingly been a bit meh |
Jul 2016
4:24pm, 29 Jul 2016
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Windsor Wool
Welcome Alan, good set of other PBs there that have you in the right ballpark, particularly if you've the experience of running a 3:18 previously. Baz, even I am going to catch you if you don't get your finger out soon! And my best marathon came at the end of 3 consecutive cycles, so a big chunky (for me) year of miles like I'd never done them before. Then I got broken, like many do but that's the fine line here. I'll still stress that to run a fast marathon you've got to do some fast running as well but agree completely that this comes closer to the time (if you are sensible and prioritise races properly). Some have noted that I 'raced' a 10k last weekend. Good god. I was running at marathon pace at around 6k. To say I have gone off the boil would be the understatement of the century. I'm pretty much in the same mindset as BR now and thinking of how to best build back to a crescendo for Q117. |
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Jul 2016
4:29pm, 29 Jul 2016
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Bazoaxe
WW, I ran past a car with the registration plate of 60 WW last night and I read it to be GO WW and LOLd !!!! Like you I am finding running to be so much harder right now. 8 miles last night and the last 3 felt like a real chore and made me wonder how I was churning out 20 milers every sunday and 15 during the week along with all the other sessions and just feeling like running was comfortable. I know it will all come back, but it doesn't feel that way right now |
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Jul 2016
4:35pm, 29 Jul 2016
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Windsor Wool
The numberplate was hinting at my current equivalent physical age! It's the midweek MLR that I look back as seemingly impossible. 15 miles, in the dark, in the cold, every week, ramping down to 7 min pace for the last 5, week after week. I guess this goes to show that THAT was the key session for me in the big puzzle. I've also been thinking that whether something physical has happened here, where I now need more miles to get me going again. Have the cycles of marathon training meant that my body won't react to anything else? I'm sure that doing a few decent sessions in a 200 mile month would have got me to a 38 min 10k in the past. Could be age as well I suppose. |
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Jul 2016
4:39pm, 29 Jul 2016
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B Rubble
Thanks Nelly. Awesome mileage there, never got over 300 miles in a month myself. Bazo, hopefully we have learned from our experience. You know it will come back, it just takes a bit of time and patience. WW - I don't think I've managed a single mile at previous MP for three months and that was downhill and felt like sprinting! |
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