The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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Sep 2014
10:09am, 21 Sep 2014
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Bazoaxe
Lol my chin hurts when I laugh. Final tests ok but show some dehydration which could be the cause. Feet up and sky sports.
Sep 2014
12:32pm, 21 Sep 2014
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jdarun
Bazo, some of my best friends are doctors but I wouldn't take a blind bit of notice of anything an a&e doctor tells you unless they can back it up with clear diagnosis. It's rare to find a doctor who has much of a clue about healthy people. I bet they assume 20m is a death-defying feat that will take you to the brink of collapse rather than just what you usually get up to on a Sunday morning.

I view being occasionally dizzy as a normal consequence of being a bit hot and tired.

Of course if you have a genuine reason for concern, that's another matter.
Sep 2014
3:06pm, 21 Sep 2014
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Chrisull
Well Bazo I think that sets a new standard for taper madness ;-)...

but on a serious note I knew a runner who collapsed in very similar circumstances was found by wife unconscious by toilet, was very shaken up by it but fine, they ran tests for weeks found nothing wrong, and it never happened again. Hope it's the same for you.
Sep 2014
3:14pm, 21 Sep 2014
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Bazoaxe
Thanks chris and others for concerns. Feeling muchbetter now. Apart from the sore chin.

Gave my wife and daughter a real fright though and lucky they were around as I was out of it.

This sounds like your friend chris. Thinking back after yesterday's run I was in a rush and didnt have a drink for a few hours. Spent the afternoon. Doing chores and had a hot bath late afternoon. I guess that I just didnt hydrate enough and it's taught me a lesson.
Sep 2014
5:13pm, 21 Sep 2014
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K5 Gus
Good to hear that they've not found anything so far Baz.

I made a late decision to enter a 10k today - the East Neuk 10k ( in Fife ) was taking entries on the day.

After yesterday's struggle at parkrun in 20:14, didn't have too high expectations, thought I'd be lucky to break 41:30

Felt a lot better though, nice flat course ( but so is the Edinburgh parkrun, so no excuse there ), and was surprised to get to the 5km mark in 20:12 and was able to push on slightly for a negative split ( 19:58 ) on the way back for 40:10. That was a pleasant surprise :-)

Then went and ran 13 miles on the Fife Coastal Path to get my weekly long run mileage - really beautiful part of the coast from Anstruther along to Crail, and past for another 1.5 miles, really enjoyed it.Recommend it if you're ever in the area.

Knackered now, looking forward to rest day tomorrow.
Sep 2014
5:14pm, 21 Sep 2014
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LouLou
That's a bit of a generalisation jdarun !! Most doctors know a lot about "normal" people particularly A&E/ GPs. As a hospital doc, I do see a fair amount of pathology and less normal. I do accept your comment that many colleagues would consider 20miles not normal.

Glad your ok now Bazo.

Out of interest, anyone had an echocardiogram done? There was a programme for screening for young athletes given risk of sudden cardiac death in young athletes. I had one done to investigate a murmur.
Sep 2014
6:20pm, 21 Sep 2014
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dan.
Sounds like a one-off baz, good news that you should be ok for Chester

Nice little 7 mile race for me today ran at pmp, ran there and back to make it 21 and felt pretty good. Bad news for the race organiser today, a marshal missing at a t junction and a fair few went the wrong way, whoops!
Sep 2014
6:23pm, 21 Sep 2014
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Bazoaxe
Great stuff gus well done.

Lou echocardiogram. Presume that's the ECG I had today. If so the answer is yes
Sep 2014
6:39pm, 21 Sep 2014
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Bazoaxe
jdarun - I wouldnt know a clear diagnosis if it bashed me on the chin ;-)

However in defence of A&E doctors I have nothing but praise for them on a number of fronts. From the reception staff who handled the drunks to the nurses and then the doctor. All looked after me well and I left feeling checke dover and re-assured even if I couldnt quite recall exactly what I was told - but Lou seems to have confirmed the details of it.

These guys have one helluva job and have to deal with a whole variety of things they may not yet have seen so far, albeit a Saturday night did seem to consist of loads of broken noses, seriously cut looking hands and other fight related injuries
Sep 2014
7:17pm, 21 Sep 2014
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JohnnyO
Sounds scary Bazo, but hopefully nothing to be too concerned about. I have postural hypos all the time and have dropped to the floor before now. Luckily never bashed myself though.

Lou- I have been echoed, and also had a full cardiopulmonary exercise test.

Not sure the echo is that useful at my age, if I had an obstructive cardiomyopathy it would have shown by now, but I take great comfort from the fact that there was no hint of ischaemia at maximum effort.

And also, as an anaesthetist, at least 50% of my practice is dealing with people who are healthy, and I know quite a lot about what is and isn't normal (the other 50% are on ICU and nowhere near normal however :))

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