The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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Sep 2014
10:59am, 2 Sep 2014
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Runamok
Can empathize with PtB and BR and their illness/injury woes. best decisions have been madeand now you can concentrate on getting over your respective issues, recovering, getting back to 100% health and then building plans for you next target.
As Iampecunia has noted, there does appear to be an amount of doom and gloom on here at the moment. So, to lift that a litttle, I am starting to get my mojo back as I am seeing a light at the end of the tunnel wrt my niggle/injury. The left glute has now decided to start working (not bad after 4 months of rehab!) and is nearly as strong as the right. So I've decided to get back into some formal training. I'll continue to go through hydrotherapy which has been working wonders with functionality of my upper leg muscles (plus it absolutely knackers me as I am a really poor swimmer) especially when aqua jogging a 50m pool. I may even run a comeback marathon earlier than planned and run Portsmouth at the end of the year.
Sep 2014
12:40pm, 2 Sep 2014
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Bazoaxe
BR, sorry to hear that, sounds like a sensible decision

Hellen, I agree with Lou, you do some amazing running, but maybe some R&R will help you to move forward

The thread is taking a bit of a turnaround though in that hypocondriac Baz is the only (well almost only) one still fit !!!! Having said that my hip/groin has been niggling of late, but a few days of foam rollering seems to have got things back in line

Runa, glutes I think are the root of all my issues, if I do my rehab I can run and manage the issues, if I neglect the rehab I get niggles that eventually stop me if I dont get back on the re-hab.
Sep 2014
12:53pm, 2 Sep 2014
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RBNLMX
I need to start following this thread as I'm hoping for a 3.15 at Dublin and could 100% do with some motivation! I noticed three others listed to the right - will you be trying to run together?
Sep 2014
12:54pm, 2 Sep 2014
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HappyG(rrr)
Sorry to hear of injury and illness woes ptb and BR, hope you both recover soon. Good to hear you're well Bazo. How many weeks - is it 5? What are your last few key runs and how soon do you start taper? I'm on a 3 week taper at the mo, and loving it! Driving car to work this week to keep from tiring myself cycling. That's my excuse anyway! Then after the weekend I'll be on recovery. Magic! Several lazy weeks! :-) G
Sep 2014
2:06pm, 2 Sep 2014
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paul the builder
Good job you've not managed to sell it yet then, G? ;-)

RBNLMX (snappy!) - hope the training's going well for Dublin. It's a big field, and there's plenty to run with whatever your pace (well, anything slower than about 2:45 anyway). There's pacers too. So I don't think you'll be short of similar-minded company, even if it's not necessarily someone from this thread (where there are a wide range of targets, not just 3:14:59).

Baz - yes, that occurred to me too. Ironic (I think). Anyway, I don't mind screwing a campaign up if it means you nailing one. You're due one.
Sep 2014
2:41pm, 2 Sep 2014
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MoscowFlyer
First interval session for a while today, maybe only the second or third of the year. Easing back in with 16x200m off 100m walk/jog recoveries, 8 slightly uphill and 8 slightly down. I know you can't take anything out of these shorter sessions in terms of analysing pace but all within 38-41s per interval which despite being about a stone heavier is pretty much exactly the same as the last time I did this session nearly two years ago.

Really enjoyed that, forgot just how much I like intervals.
Sep 2014
3:16pm, 2 Sep 2014
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RBNLMX
Hi Paul - you can call me Robin! Training is quite loose at the moment, just lots of distance and a few shorter quicker runs. I'm using this as my last not-following-a-routine marathon, before concentrating on a Spring marathon in 2015 with a full training schedule.

Thanks for the information on Dublin, sounds good. My best before was 3.25 in Rome which was pretty flat, so here's hoping for another improvement!
Sep 2014
3:23pm, 2 Sep 2014
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clare1976
Hi all, sorry to hear of the injury / illness woes affecting some of you - very unlucky esepcially when happening part way through what had been a strong training campaign. Good to hear some positives though, especially Runamok.

Hellen, I am not surprised you are feeling tired / lacking in 'speed' after 4 lots of 100 mile weeks and a 12 hour race! I am not saying speed and endurance are mutually exclusive, but I do think that a lot of 'general' miles will make your legs tired and you will not have the same 'edge' for speed. I know you have managed to do both at times in the past, but I would suggest dropping back to 60-70 miles a week with at least one rest day per week for a month and try a variety of sessions - tempo, mp, recovery etc to vary pace. I am not sure what your main goal is at present but am assuming it's marathon or longer so I would question the benefit / relevance of 1 minute intervals? Maybe try mile or km reps?

My training is going really well so far for Abingdon, though I am still not sure that I am knocking on sub-3:15 territory yet - if I don't do anything stupid, then a PB and hopefully a sub-3:20 should be a certainty, but whether I have enough to take it that bit further is still to be decided. A HM race this coming weekend and a 'Gobi style progressive 20' the following weekend should be good indicators.
Sep 2014
4:57pm, 2 Sep 2014
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HappyG(rrr)
Paul, I would have got lifts and bus if I had sold the car, honest! :-P But as I've still got it, I'm doing rest and also drive to my race this weekend all in the little ol' car. Then I'll stick it on BCA and sure to sell it that way!

Clare, I'm a fan of only taking 3-5 mins off in each marathon and making constant progress. There're more great times to come from you, but doesn't all have to be at once. :-) G
Sep 2014
5:06pm, 2 Sep 2014
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hellen
My lack of speed was before I did the 12 hour race and 100 mile weeks and after 3 weeks rest, it still hasn't come back so was just giving an example of a recent session however speed been rubbish for months

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