The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread
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Aug 2014
8:00pm, 24 Aug 2014
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HappyG(rrr)
Nice pacing Bazo. I always found longer MPs were close to the limit (certainly never felt, yeah, could just keep going at that pace, always glad to stop). But that was building up from 7 or8 to 15 or more out of a 10 to 20 mile long run. Builds the confidence as distance builds. JH, agree, no one can run within 2s of per mile pace. The Garmin varies more than that, just with satellite and urban inaccuracies. But over each 5K or whatever break down you choose to use, you can be within 5-10s per mile ave, I believe. And if like me you are running very close to your limit, then I think you *have* to be that disciplined or your're going to either lose 1-2 mins slower than you should or blow up and lose 10-20 mins or more (the latter being the more common!)  G
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Aug 2014
9:12pm, 24 Aug 2014
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JohnnyO
Nice running everyone, 60 mile week for me, but no 20 miler as I just didn't have time. Hadn't realised that having a child would have such an effect on my training! |
Aug 2014
9:54pm, 24 Aug 2014
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Bazoaxe
One factor in pacing we havent discussed are timing mats...we should be able to trust that they are pretty accurate and use these to guide us to the accuracy of either manual or GPS lapping. Ive checked and Chester has timing mats at 10k, 20k, half and 30k and I can use these as my key check points. VLM is even better as you have them every 5k...and in fact you can pretty much trust ther mile markers anyway. However, granted some smaller ones might have timing mats only at halfway, or not at all....
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Aug 2014
10:21pm, 24 Aug 2014
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LouLou
Do you ever wonder what they did in the old days before GPS? I reckon when I ran my PB I knew what sub 3 pace felt like and locked into that feeling. I'm not saying my watch didn't help but when does GPS become a hinderance? When do we run to the watch and lose that link with her head? When I ran under 3.15 for first time I hadn't even decided what pace I'd run at - I just thought I could get under 3.15 based on half times etc. Life was so much simpler then. |
Aug 2014
10:50pm, 24 Aug 2014
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STOOSH
Good long running folks - keep it up:) Run 10m tonight without a watch, a much more relaxed way to run...i'm guessing it was progressive as i was battering on in the last couple of miles. 20m yesterday which i felt rotten from start to finish but got it done none the less! Finishes off another 80+ week, only 6 or 7 of these to go then i'm winding down...can't wait as i'm knackered already:-o |
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Aug 2014
8:31am, 25 Aug 2014
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JohnnyO
I reckon that that was the whole purpose of MP runs, to get to know the required pace so that you didn't drop off. I guess you could confirm it with a stopwatch and a mile marker (and the old fashioned paceband), but you needed to know what your desired target pace felt like. I have never run without it, though I have run without looking at it. Can't imagine doing a race without it though, I think it mostly just stops me overdoing it in the first few miles. In the last six I can't normally go any faster. |
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Aug 2014
10:38am, 25 Aug 2014
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HappyG(rrr)
MP in my target race, with the crowds, adrenaline, rest before race day etc. felt soooo much easier than any MP run (which always felt tough) - until maybe 18 or 20 miles in the race, then you've got to start digging, sure, but MP feels (should feel?) easy peasy until 10, 13 even 15 miles, surely? But in training, esp for me who normally runs MP + 2mins or more in long runs and general runs, MP always felt tough. Initially 8 miles would be hard, latterly 12 or 14 would feel hard. But come race day, it's a skoosh! Have confidence people! The only thing I used my Garmin for in race is to slow myself down for first 5 miles, 10 miles, then to try and force myself to keep the pace for 15-22 miles. After 22 no need to even look at watch, you just go as fast as your legs will let you! G
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Aug 2014
1:36pm, 25 Aug 2014
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BS
After a bit of a catch up there looks to be some nice running going on. In terms of garmin/pacing my garmin usually beeps a few yards ahead of the mile markers so I have a check on the watch as I pass the marker and work out if I'm on target or well off it. I'd also try to know what I should be at at the easier to calculate distances cos it's hard enough just remembering to run. Hope your feeling better ptb. Got another sub3:15 yesterday with a slight positive split, on checking the results it looks like only a few people had a negative split. The hm went off with the full so I kinda got caught up with a few of them, 2nd half was fairly lonely and hilly. Got encouraged around the 15 mile mark when a spectator told me I was catching the ones in front, now I wondered how he would know this as we were running around small country roads, 8 miles later he cycled past and said "told you" this after I had passed 4 runners to move up to 6th and there's no way anyone was going to catch me even if I was slowing up. |
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Aug 2014
1:55pm, 25 Aug 2014
22,621 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
6th? Nice one BS. Top 10 finish, good going. G
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Aug 2014
2:01pm, 25 Aug 2014
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BS
There was a smallish field, think around 130 for the full marathon but we can only race against whoever turns up. More pleased with the 3:11.
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