depression

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Aug 2014
10:18pm, 28 Aug 2014
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Liliaicha
Spoke to my boss today for the first time since I've been off work (nearly 7 weeks :()

I spent most of it in tears for no reason at all. No more news about when my kitchen will be up and running again - early December is still being mentioned.

I got upset when I asked her where on earth are they going to put me when I'm better? There really is nowhere for me to go. I might do some admin, or equipment delivery, basically she has no idea.

I also bottled out of telling her that I'd heard that she didn't even want to open my kitchen again as it's too much hassle. She'd only deny it either way. If they did want to make me redundant they would probably assume that doing it while I'm off sick with depression would not be a good idea!

Have a telephone consultation with Occ H tomorrow and I'm terrified. Apparently they will ask me if I'm up to a face to face meeting with management to talk about stuff. I'm not. Never will be. I always feel totally steam-rollered and I know they all go on courses to deal with staff "situations" and I always feel really small and stupid. They always "out-argue" me, and then I get frustrated and upset.

My sick note runs out on Monday, so I'm also panicking about that. I'm not ready to go back to work yet and I know I'm blaming it all on my job not actually being there. I really feel that if my kitchen was up and running again I could start to think about going back - I don't like change, I just want to go back to my familiar surroundings and my regular customers.

What a stupid thing to get so het up about. I'm furious with myself that this work situation has made me feel like this. Pathetic and weak.
Aug 2014
10:21pm, 28 Aug 2014
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Carpathius
No it isn't (((Liliaicha)))
Aug 2014
10:22am, 29 Aug 2014
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plodding hippo
(((((LIl)))))))))

I hate change too
If you need to be off longer then you just do
Sorry to be AWOL

Been battling a few demons myself
Aug 2014
3:00pm, 29 Aug 2014
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Liliaicha
40 mins on phone to Occ H. 30 mins in tears, made worse when it was suggested that I meet with "management". Just makes it sound scary. I almost imagine facing a whole panel of managers and HR people with them all ignoring what I'm saying or arguing over the top of me.

Occ H nurse says I'm not fit to work and that I should get counselling - I don't think she has any idea how impossible that is, in this (and many other) areas! Apparently I'm to ask to go on the "waiting list" - really? What waiting list?

Not sure if this will mean the doc will also sign me off :-(

Now I'm going to feel worse for the rest of the day :(:(
Aug 2014
3:06pm, 29 Aug 2014
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Southcoastpete
Sorry to hear this ((Lillai))

I think you have to go on a waiting list for NHS counselling.

Are you a member of a Union at work? You can have a Union Rep with you with any meetings with management. Mean you have someone on your side at least.
Aug 2014
3:09pm, 29 Aug 2014
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Carpathius
Lili, if the nurse can see you're not fit to work yet so will the GP. Can occy health write to your GP?
Aug 2014
3:23pm, 29 Aug 2014
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Liliaicha
SCP - I tried to get counselling before, but all I got was a telephone conversation which seemed to revolve about asking me if I had any suicidal thoughts - which I didn't, and therefore didn't qualify for counselling - basically I wasn't ill enough. I was then sent some information for some totally inappropriate places for counselling which wouldn't have helped at all and I would have had to pay for it. That was it. No waiting list or anything like that

Carp - I really don't know how it works :-(
Aug 2014
3:27pm, 29 Aug 2014
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plodding hippo
you dont have to be suicidal to qualify for counselling
although provision is woefully inadequate in most areas
Aug 2014
3:53pm, 29 Aug 2014
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Liliaicha
Will ask the doc on Monday.

My OH is cross that I didn't accept a meeting with "management" he says I should meet them halfway. The prospect of a meeting terrifies me, especially as no one seems to know who it would be with. I would probably just spend the whole time in tears.
Aug 2014
4:28pm, 29 Aug 2014
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pink fairy
Am just posting as a mental health professional who might be able to help with some information about how to get into services. There is a nationwide (England only unfortunately) mainly NHS-run (but always free) programme called IAPT (Improving Access to Psychological Therapies). They provide different levels/ intensities of psychological therapies (including counselling, but often things like guided self-help and CBT) and some allow self-referrals as well as GP-referrals. Confusingly in some areas this is separate to what the GPs will know as 'counselling' services and they may have shorter waiting lists so it can often be worth asking specifically for an IAPT referral.

There is a list of IAPT services here iapt.nhs.uk you just need to choose your region and then work out which one covers your area. If you're not sure, ring them and ask the secretary- they will usually be able to tell you which service you need. If they take self-referrals you should be able to ring up (or some have email addresses) and not wait for your GP to do it.

If anyone has any questions about IAPT services/ MH services available I'm happy to try to help as I'm really aware that the information is often as clear as mud and GPs often struggle to understand the services

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