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Oct 2019
5:02pm, 14 Oct 2019
34,852 posts
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Derby Tup
Some good targets above ^ 
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Oct 2019
5:09pm, 14 Oct 2019
5,501 posts
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Northern Exile
The Charlie Ramsay is definitely a good target. I wish.
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Oct 2019
5:18pm, 14 Oct 2019
34,853 posts
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Derby Tup
You’ve got a Puddle splash job to do
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Oct 2019
9:32am, 15 Oct 2019
9,029 posts
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geordiegirl
Morning all.
Not a training question but a recover question if that is possible
I have had a crazy year started with marathon end feb, another mid March (gave blood week before which I wont do again) another mid May. I had planned Loch Ness early Oct but then added in my first ultra on 31st August. I struggled after Windermere (May) and took a back step on training meaning I turned up to hardmoors with not enough miles in the bank and with LN only 5 weeks later I again had a back off on miles.
I did complete them all, not in the quickest times but I finished them all and most importantly without injury.
I fully appreciate that I didn't put enough training in as I was too busy doing races so that is a big lesson learnt. Question now is I feel like my legs have nothing in them, I fell at mile 4 of Hardmoors and hurt my right shoulder which is still uncomfortable.
I will get a sports massage booked in but any other advice on the next few weeks/months regarding recovery? I am away for 6weeks next March/April so don't intend (but who knows what may happen) to do anything major before late summer/autumn sticking to shorter races but I'd like to keep the long runs going so I am ready with miles in my legs when the time comes.
Appreciate any words of wisdom. Thanks so much in advance.
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Oct 2019
10:09am, 15 Oct 2019
1,240 posts
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oumaumau
If you are empty, then take a week (or two) off. It won't harm your fitness, and will allow the recovery to happen.
It's best to have a plan - both training and racing - and most importantly to stick to it. At the beginning of the year (or whenever you start planning for next year) set a sensible schedule eg if you see a race you want to do, then put a block of training before, and recovery time after, then do not enter any more races in these time blocks.
Doing races as training can be a big risk - it's harder to let them go if training isn't going well, and it can be easy to run them too hard in the excitement of the day. Then recovery and subsequent training suffers before a target event.
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Oct 2019
10:49am, 15 Oct 2019
18,648 posts
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flanker
I find that after long, hard and repeated efforts it can take months to get the spring back in the legs, especially if you keep on 'racing'. Getting on for 3 months after L100 and my legs still feel dead (unlike afterwards when they felt fine, and probably caused me to do far too much too soon). Low intensity, lower volume has to be the key to full recovery.
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Oct 2019
12:54pm, 15 Oct 2019
9,031 posts
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geordiegirl
I think my legs would feel dead after 100miles flanker and you're probably right on that it felt ok afterwards so you do a bit much.
oumaumau thank you for the sensible words around planning events and not getting carried away by the excitement of other races. I have been reading about the pro's and how they focus on one, maybe 2, events and the rest is training for them. This year should have been Dark Skies in March and LN in October I messed it up putting the others in.
Oh and to make a plan I currently just run when I can fit it in.... really I don't think I could have expected more than I've done.
Has anyone here come across/used massage guns? I have had someone recommend them and then a friend at work said they have one at the gym and they're amazing... but I think if they were that good surely we'd know more about them? But I am tempted esp as my shoulder is really sore and my neck/shoulders are always tight with being desk bound at work.
thanks again for the responses.
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Oct 2019
1:00pm, 15 Oct 2019
1,244 posts
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oumaumau
If you have a specific injury gg, then I'd recommend a professional have a look at it.
Generalist tools (toys?) are all well and good for routine stuff (I'm thinking foam rollers, massage balls etc.), but an impact injury can be tricky to fix. Shoulders especially so, as they are a very complicated joint.
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Oct 2019
1:11pm, 15 Oct 2019
9,032 posts
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geordiegirl
I am going to have a sports massage on it, but I sit very badly at work and my shoulders are always tense. And then there is the added benefit it could help legs too without the awkwardness of the foam roller
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Oct 2019
1:14pm, 15 Oct 2019
9,033 posts
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geordiegirl
I've downloaded the Relentless Forward Progress it might help me going forward.
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