The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread
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24 Jun
11:40pm, 24 Jun 2025
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HappyG(rrr)
Impressive Mark. Would love to still be PBing at this age and stage of life. Go for it guys.  G
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25 Jun
4:20am, 25 Jun 2025
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Mark J 🇳🇿
Chur! I was discussing this subject this morning with my coach and whilst I'm far from conceding to age, I have to be realistic and accept that progress from here looks more like maintaining a level, than improving on it. I'm certainly not giving in to age, more just resetting my criteria for success. Let's see what this block brings but I can definitely feel like I'm at or extremely close to a plateau now.
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25 Jun
9:47am, 25 Jun 2025
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PJH92
Likewise @clare1976 , got a few 10ks before the summer is over so hoping to still do OK (a sub40 would be nice) in them, will mess around with the plan so I'm coming into them slightly fresher to give them a good crack. I did actually do York back in 2015, but its a horrendous blur, I had a 10 day old baby, I had done no training. I remember walking at the 5km mark - limped home in 4h50. Coming to lay that demon to rest. I grew up in York (hence doing York over Abingdon which is way more local to me now!) so know the dull countryside roads a bit, and actually when I did Newport (Wales) a few years ago I quite enjoyed the quiet countryside so hopefully I can just lock in and crack on for a couple of hours! As someone in their thirties I absolutely should still be PBing, I just have too much life happening and not enough commitment to get out the door, hoping to redress that balance this block. |
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25 Jun
9:48am, 25 Jun 2025
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PJH92
Windsor Wool wrote: welcome back PJH. A few of us have done that one over the years. Perhaps not Abingdon flat / fast but not a bad course with the benefit of starting & ending at the academic institution that produces only the brightest minds! Anyway, you are now in the sidebar - please keep us updated on progress. I thought it started at the Uni not St Johns?
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25 Jun
2:47pm, 25 Jun 2025
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Windsor Wool
very good PJH! I find that those people who say age is just a number are younger folks commenting on the achievements of the few who keep going and going. They either don't see or forget about the vast number of people who fall by the wayside. Just keeping going in to older age is a massive achievement, to maintain any kind of standard is out of this world. We're backing you Mark! |
6 Jul
2:08pm, 6 Jul 2025
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Forrest Jooligan
Just popping in to say thanks to @HappyG(rrr) for putting the P&D 12 wk up to 55mpw training plan on Fetch & ask a question. I’m considering Barnstaple on September 28th having managed consistent 40+ mpw since the end of February apart from a week off after Newport (3:38) I have been dipping in to my old copy to refresh my memory of the principle with a view to starting on the plan next week. I can find HR advice for the following as % of HR max <75 Recovery (which seems high. I’d’ve thought below 70% was better) 73-83 Long runs 80-90 LT 94-98 VO2 but nothing for General Aerobic. Would 70-75% |
6 Jul
2:31pm, 6 Jul 2025
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larkim
I tend to work on the basis of P&D being a pace based plan rather than a HR based on. I think this, from my training data, was the ranges that P&D specifies based on either HRMax or HRR, if you can make sense of it! |
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6 Jul
2:32pm, 6 Jul 2025
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larkim
Green are the percentages, yellow are the figures based on my HR max/reserve at the time.
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6 Jul
5:40pm, 6 Jul 2025
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HappyG(rrr)
Forrest Jooligan wrote: Just popping in to say thanks to @HappyG(rrr) for putting the P&D 12 wk up to 55mpw training plan on Fetch & ask a question. I’m considering Barnstaple on September 28th having managed consistent 40+ mpw since the end of February apart from a week off after Newport (3:38) I have been dipping in to my old copy to refresh my memory of the principle with a view to starting on the plan next week. I can find HR advice for the following as % of HR max <75 Recovery (which seems high. I’d’ve thought below 70% was better) 73-83 Long runs 80-90 LT 94-98 VO2 but nothing for General Aerobic. Would 70-75% Loved P&D. It works FJ, so very best of luck with it! I never ran to HR, pace zones for me. And think I always actually did the 18 week, but someone else had already loaded that one up, hence why I contributed the 12. Enjoy! G
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7 Jul
12:55pm, 7 Jul 2025
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Forrest Jooligan
Thanks both. 70-75% looks about right then. I'm messing with the plan already by starting it a day early 😂 |
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