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You should have given Stephen a doughnut too although I am not sure how good they are for dogs but the lip-licking would have been awesome as dogs are very good at that

I watched that licking my lips! so where's my doughnut? So pleased to see Stephen making a guest appearance

No spoilers!! Excellent video, like the double act format.

Mmmm. Doughnuts.

*like*
How do you get the little video link in your blog? I just got a "click on this link to see where I go" line

SS - it depends which version of the link you've pasted. If it's the full one, with 'youtube.com' in it, then it should work. If it's the shortened 'youtu.be' version, then I'm not sure Fetch recognises those yet.

Teehee...love this. Well done both of you! I think I'll just donate a tenner and stuff two doughnuts in with plentiful amounts of licking! How can you enjoy them with crusty lips!!!

Teehee...love this. Well done both of you! I think I'll just donate a tenner and stuff two doughnuts in with plentiful amounts of licking! How can you enjoy them with crusty lips!!!

looks and sounds good

If we never ever get on a bike, can we get rid of the green line??

The different coloured rows only show up if you've done the thing in the last twelve months. I've got one bike ride spoiling my view

Looking good. Does the new map have an option to show where you have run/rode for the last 12 months like a snails trail?

I think you like playing

PP - yes, the map view shows you everywhere you've been during the time period you've selected.

One of the other things that isn't visible in the screenshot is in the calendar view - when you select that, it now shows the weekly totals for full weeks, even if the start of the week is before the start of the month. Surprisingly, this has been the most-voted-for suggestion here: http://www.fetcheveryone.com/consultation.php

looks interesting, when do we get to play?

CW - all being well, I'll include a link when I do my vlog on Friday.

Looks good.

Talking about ascent ( point 8 in your list above ), is the ascent now being calculated when the activity is imported, or will it still show as 0 until we do we a Glasses View ?

The calendar view will now show the weekly totals for full weeks, even if the start of the week is before the start of the period you've selected.

I quite liked the rolling five week calendar...

... Which mean I'll love the rolling 12 month.

OT but there was/ is a discussion on Grade Adjusted Pace which S****a has. I don't use S*****a but it's something that I'd like on Fetch.

...Oh and milliseconds.

Good grief, I'm in the shop, advertising a woman's shirt (*)(*).

How generous is the cut on last year's subscriber shirts?

I hope you don't mind There's only one of those left I think, and I couldn't remember where I'd seen a lady wearing one.

Thank you for the payday reminder. I returned my carriage several times.

I'm wondering about sizing? What size does a woman's extra small equate to? I have a small Fetch vest already, which is a little generous- wondering if I can squeeze into an anniversary xs (no small left!) Also, how much is postage please?

Postage is free. Not sure what to advise on size, other than to suggest that you could send it back if it doesn't fit.

I'l squeeze in if I have to!! Order placed!

(Up there I meant cut in the tailoring sense, rather than angling for a discount :-). Basically would a short chunky who always takes a large race t-shirt fit into a Fetch medium without it looking like I might be expecting?)

Like it (the vlog). Quick and to the point informative, delivered in your own inimitable style, ie you being yourself.

nice Vlog! It's nice to hear you rather than just read you from time to time. Looking forward to the training log updates

More please. Nice to hear you. You've more of an accent in my head

+1 for the vlog.

More vlog's

I'm wearing my Oakley hoodie today too

Yes. Good vlog.

yeah the vlog is back keep em coming oh bender of wookies

Nice hoodie

What is this wizardry!

Is it? Yes please.

P.S. I've just sent non-urgent feedback about an order but I'm not sure whether it was sent or eaten.

loving the vlog Your bottom bookshelf is empty. That is just plain weird. Now I'm off to investigate the shoppe

Like the vlog, more please

Liked the vlog. It made me smile

Yes. Vlogging is the future.

Liking the human touch. On the shop, can you add a chart to show what the sizes are in inches/cm's?

Love the vlog. Very in keeping with the more personal (versus corporate) of this website.

Can we have more Stephen? I know he was skulling beneath the worksurface.

Loving the vlog! 😀

Loved the vlog 😀

Buying votes you mean? Good idea. Could you run the next EU referendum or General Election please? G

Darn it - I forgot to include the #cashforquestions tag. Let's get it trending

Maybe you could hide the extra weighting you give the opinions of your subscribers. That way you know which way they think but it won't necessarily show in the public results. You could then decide in your role as Lord Fetch of Fetch whether to pay extra attention to their opinions or not. They may not have different priorities do the other site users. It might be interesting to see what if any difference such a weighting would make.

I've realised I have a new wish for the training log - in fact, it is such an old wish I'd forgotten all about it. It comes in two versions of which the second would be preferred one:
a) restore the line after the splits times that used to say "You stopped your watch for 250 seconds" (and show it in hours and minutes)
b) have two separate views of training, one including the non-moving times and one excluding them.

Good suggestions Chris. Can I encourage you to post them via the link: http://www.fetcheveryone.com/consultation.php

When I had to do professional exams, the handling of time zones was something I refused to learn about as it was infinitely complex and quite irrelevant to the job I had to do.

Whilst an hour either way doesn't make a lot of practical difference, it'll be quite good news for our overseas users

I'm a Vivoactive (not the one with HR - looks squarer, like an Apple watch, not long like the FitBit) and it works too, so you could add that to your happy list. G

you make me happy

Amazes me how few developers consider timezones (or character encodings). Easy to get wrong but with the support built into languages like Java there is no excuse really nowadays for not getting it right. Not saying I'm a huge fan of Java - I mean, imagine a Garmin coded in Java, it would take ages to redraw map screens and periodically freeze for no apparent reason to do GC. Oh.

735?

Jude - it's not an exhaustive list on either side yet, just ones I've noticed.

I'm a with a 110 so no fix for me then.

which is strange as I'm pretty sure (without checking) that garmin connect corrects for timezones with all models.

No doubt in the absence of anything else, you can infer it from the Lat/lng info.

If I ask nicely, is there any chance that the training log itself can understand timezones for manually entered runs, pretty please?
For example, I ran at 7am this morning (in GMT+12hrs), if I log it now either I put it in the current fetch day (i.e. my yesterday, your today) and move it later or leave it on the wrong day for ever; or I put it in my today (i.e. your tomorrow) and it goes to my training plan until me and GMT are on the same day at which point I can move it to my training log. Or I wait until lunchtime to log it, and hope I dont reset my stopwatch before then.

Just thought of another solution! You could ensure that I win a garmin device (other brands are available!) in this years advent calendar

Just checking - have you added some code to handle Garmin TZs since last week? My training log from my Garmin 230 logged my parkrun last Saturday as 8am (this is Scotland, so we start at 9.30am ) but my training run from Wednesday night has been logged as 7pm which is correct. This suggests that the 230 might work?

Yep, I have.

I'm pretty sure the Garmin 405 doesn't include the timestamp based on the evidence from the last couple of days since you published this

The 230 is now working correctly

I auto uploaded a run from garmin connect tonight. I started the run at about 6.30pm and for the first time since BST started it showed the correct time (6pm). Due to another issue (it cut short my route trace - see my moan on the fetch point thread!), I downloaded a TCX file from GC then uploaded it manually to here. That showed a time of 5pm for the run (no biggie, I'm used to updating it!)

Thanks Clare No-one would criticise you if you built an extra route for the purpose of getting that bug. As for the TCX files, unfortunately they don't seem to contain the same time zone info - but I'll investigate the options tomorrow.

My uploaded run this evening shows 5pm when I started at 6:20ish. Using Garmin Express with a 310xt so I think it's in FIT file format.

Carpathius - I've had a look at the file that came over, and it doesn't seem to have the same time zone info in it that other watches have. Other (I guess more recent) Garmins have a field called activity.local_timestamp - which for UK users is currently 3600 seconds ahead of another field called activity.timestamp. Similarly, overseas users have a larger difference between the two fields. It's possibly something that the 310XT would support with a software update maybe? I'll see if I can log some stats today, to see if I can track the model / software versions, and which ones have this timezone info.

Scarily similar times to Carp. I dropped off my son at 6.20pm last night and ran from that point (so know exact time). Log is saying 5pm. I have quite an old Garmin forerunner 110 and sync Fetch and Garmin Express. Software is up to date.

Yay! Fixed. Last night's 6:45 start shows as 6pm, not 5pm! By the way, why do you round up to nearest hour, rather than showing exact start time?

I love the fact that you are continuously fixing and enhancing stuff. Good work. G

HG(rrr) - it dates back to a time when it didn't seem so important But obviously it's absolutely critical

I had a peak inside the .tcx file from my FR410 and the time is an hour behind, despite it showing correctly on the watch. I presume the time in the file is UTC and the watch applie whatever timezone. If non FIT files all have UTC times, could a presumption of UK time zone be applied??

Since I added an extra IQ Connect data field to my 920XT, my FIT files don't upload to Fetch automatically and I have to do a manual upload via TCX (as documented here http://www.fetcheveryone.com/viewtopic.php?id=59019)

Fetch, 95% of my runs are in timezone (UTC +4:30) and are recorded on a garmin FR225. Not sure if that is any use to you or not but thought I'd mention it in case it is. I notice that the time of my activities are recorded as UTC anyway though, cancel that, just checked and this mornings show local time. I did notice that an activity yesterday morning did not upload automatically from garmin connect so added it manually, but at some point between then and this morning it had arrived.

Thanks for checking Fetch. I'm not prepared to upgrade my adored old watch and having the time correct isn't exactly life or death!

Raaar indeed. 56 miles is not so far on a bike as you think.

But it sure sounds like a LONG way

56 miles isn't far on a bike if you are just doing the bike bit.

Chugging is good.

so bilateral breathing is how I get over that problem where my lungs a pool's length behind the rest of my body. Useful

you are a busy bee!

you may have guessed this was coming... Fix it so that the log can accept large run files from the Fenix 3HR. Small runs are fine, but when you get into ultra territory they fail to upload, either on transfer from Garmin Connect or by trying to upload any of various file types. Not sure if its a pure size thing, or if there is an element of the extra running dynamics info. I can let you have sample files

oh, sorry, you want it on there ^^^. I'll do that too!

An ideal example of something to propose.

I suspect the number of people voting for this may be limited though!

Isn't "consultation" a way of saying that you've already decided something but want to appear to be open about it?

Not in this case.

I really like the monthly run totals - particularly how I'm doing against previous years - but I can't get them easily on my iPhone - something to do with the mobile formatting perhaps? Also when you're putting in a training plan I wonder if you could set it up like a recurring outlook calendar - every day for next 10 weeks I'd like to do a park run on a Saturday please. Just a thought anyhow

Just curious, will fixing the BST/GMT bug also make things nicer for those of us in timezones ahead of the UK (e.g. in NZ we are between 11 and 13 hours ahead, so if I run in the morning it is in your tomorrow)?
P.S. the training logs are already really good

Could you have a word with suunto? I spend longer uploading and transferring my runs than sleeping.

Can you please find my ant stick and help me be bothered to upload rather than type in my run times manually?

can I vote 5 times for the Suunto automatic import I like my new Suunto watch but hate having to log onto a computer to import training to Fetch after years of lovely automatic updates via Bluetooth/wifi on my phone with my Garmin to Fetch and strava

I know it's probably too late now, but if you do another consultation I the future, please can we have both thumbs up AND thumbs down voting options, to allow us to also vote for options we don't want to see (e.g. Garmin splits removed from the notes section)?

I'm in. Happy to host something up here - we have roads as well as scenery

I'm in for the socialising but fear I am far too slow to participate in the running

Definitely up for this, a brilliant idea can't commit to October until I check if we already plans in the pipeline.

Ooh, stickers I'm in (although I've just realised we're away on the 23rd :-()

Joined up - even if I'm not running at the min

I think it's a great idea - will join group, but realistically am unlikely to be able to pitch up to many unless they happen to be on my doorstep, HB I'm slower than a slow thing too, if it's a laps location then it doesn't matter how slow you are . . .

Nice idea! I'm confident there will be other slow runners at the back with me

Sounds like a spiffing plan old chap!

Remember that it'd a social run, not a race or a time trial. So you might find there'd be people willing to run at whatever pace is necessary to have a nice chat. DW is about 4.7 miles round, so depending on numbers, we could have a few groups, some double lappers, and so on. Smaller groups probably better to avoid arousing suspicion amongst the muggles.

definitely a great idea.... and we know you do love a bit of Scotland, so will join and live in hope you come this way!!

It'd be a great excuse to take Katie away for the weekend Maz

We could be up for the 23rd as long as it doesn't start at sparrow's fart.

love that idea....diary is often a bit stuffed on sundays but if i ever could i would

Mr and Mrs Fetch on tour :-). Hope to see you when you reach North Britain .

Whether I could make the 23rd depends on Middle Boy - his 21st is the middle of the week before and it depends whether he chooses to come home from uni the weekend before or the weekend after

Do consider Saturdays, for all of us who prefer trains. The Thames Bridge Challenge has always been on Saturdays, as have most Fetch miles, I think.

Will do my best Chris, although we are often involved with parkrun on a Saturday morning. Do join the group though, so I can get an idea of how many people might be interested.

I work Sundays from late afternoon and would prefer Saturdays too.

Draycote are hosting a 10 mile race on the 23rd so if its a social run you might want a different date to avoid the racing.

I could be in but depending where it is but in reality could only do sundays due to work Despite public transport

I've got a mate who lives in Byfield, Oxon and could crash with him. So I'll keep an eye out for these and look to join in one in the future I can attend. Good plannage! G

May not be able to get to Draycote but interested in principle and have lots of circular routes from runner-friendly pubs that can hold their own in gravy dinners and brown ale so would be happy to be involved/organise a Fetch social run in the East

Everybody but me takes the opportunity to do parkrun tourism before a Thames Bridge Challenge - two birds with one stone, etc.

Is this in fact a Thames Bridges Challenge but without the Thames or the bridges? Excellent.

You already know know that I love the new hoodies - but I really love your last paragraph

The grey patterning under the armpits is novel.

That's shadow in the template - it's not part of the design.

Go sister!!

that last paragraph is special

PS. I really would like a new vest but cashflow is not flowing at the moment

fab. love the new subscription options...worth the subscription to be allowed to make a choice. I feel like im being treated like a grown up, which is unusual. and well done sister.

minardi.....have a chat with Santa

Fetch can we have an option to buy fetch gift vouchers in the form of credits?? (it'll be secret santa time soon)

If anyone would like to buy credits for someone elses account, drop me a feedback, and I can shovel stuff into the right place.

So there is a bigger value of credits for subscribing monthly over annually. £5/month = 48 credits/year vs £50 = 25.

Will there be stock to barter my credits for once I've saved enough credits or will it be like Bounts - lots of points but bugger all to buy?

Is the back of the hood plain or will it have logo ?

The back of the hoodie will be plain. I will do my absolute best to make sure that there's stock in the shop, although it might be a case of "right, this quarter we're gonna do hoodies, next quarter it's cycling jerseys / buffs / caps" - but the credits won't expire or anything lame like that.

Sounds reasonable.
Not liking the plain back, part of the appeal of existing hoodie is it being identifiable as a Fetchie.

Are the vests the same make / sizing as before (before in my case meaning about 7 years ago)? I need a new one as I'm finally resigned to not fitting in my old one any time soon! Have also started subscribing today (and recently cancelled my RW sub, so it's just redistribution of funds to Natmag Rodale really!)

Corona - the logo is full chest width on the front.

SK - no, I'm using the same manufacturer as for the subscriber shirts last year, if that helps. I can try to dig out the size info.

Thanks fetch. I think I'll just order a large and hope I'm quite handy with the sewing machine if I need to alter it.

No, no, no! 2 hoodies to choose from! That involves a decision!!!!!

Are the shirts going to be pre-order only as well or will they be available longer term? Don't renew subscription till Nov.

Oh if I'd read all the comments I didn't need to ask my question.... As you were.......

Go Fetch-Sis! Standard-bearer for I Can Do That. The world needs more I Can Do That.

Your sister kicks arse

Sister of Fetch appreciates your kind remarks 😊

Think the logo needs to be on the back or both, not just the front. And can we have a black one too. I know they all end up looking grey after a while, but black is far classier when it's new.

Everybody in Wanting Something Different Shocker

Fab about the hoodies and about your sister

Great blog, great clothing, awesome last para PS Minardi don't have a chat with Santa - let me buy you a vest as a kind return for your lovely flipbelt xxx

likey

I like the options. In particular I want a buff so happy with the options available.

Will have to wait till I get paid to subscribe again, but will do. Also need a new vest since the whole shifting a load of blubber means mine is too big Not quite sure about the hoodies yet, well let them grow on me (so to speak and not literally). Best thing about the blog is your Sis though. She will smash it. Wish her masses of luck from me xx

Well done to your sister.

Love that you followed my credit idea (or came up with it yourself and great minds think alike!) That grey hoody looks AWESOME, although I'm in the "logo on the back" brigade. Oh, and Fetch-sis is ace. Obviously...

Great looking designs. And you mentioned cycling jerseys 👍👍👍👍

Well done Fetch Sis. Top work 👊

Hurrah for FetchSister! She doesn't need luck. She's has Fetchpower.

I'll be ordering a hoodie after payday.

Well done sis. Subscribed for another year. Hope to still be saying this in another 50 years time. G

Just remembered I have a Fetch cycling jersey from many moons ago! Would love a new hoodie too as my old one has my old name on it!

And good luck to FS - Fetchies Sis

I'd happily pay £5/month (please don't do the stupid .99 thing...) with no shirt. But I'll take a shirt, too. Or maybe a vest?

LindS, I don't think Fetch needs to know what you're wearing...

Long sleeved shirt for the chillier months ahead?

Wine, pasties, or pork pies

shirt with a pasty on it

yes, monthly is better.

I guess the monthly subscription would be helpful for those who feel they might not want to support/visit this site for ever (or even just for a whole year longer), especially if there was an option just to opt out and in - for example someone who uses the site purely for training then gets injured can't run for 3 or 4 months so doesn't use the site, but wants to come back when recovered. As to the goodies... could you negotiate a deal with a company to give a discount/freebie using a unique Fetch subscriber code - e.g. when they buy a pair of running shoes they get a free pair of socks, or get £25 off second pair, depending on the level of supporter - I appreciate they have to buy something else to get the 'reward' but I suspect there are a lot of people who are happy to support the site regardless of any further 'inducements'.
Perhaps you could also have an option for an occasional donation... a 'regular subscribe' button or a 'buy me a beer' button

@ Ruth

I have to say the car sticker and pin are distinctly underwhelming, and remain completely unused. I'd rather have nothing than something I don't want (there is too much useless stuff in the world as it is). A mug might be OK.

I'd rather pay once for the year but will subscribe no matter what is decided

I like my car sticker - but I've never seen another one I lost the pin - I thought they were a good idea, but maybe not distinctive enough to spot one in the crowd.
An alternative - Buy me a beer button sounds good.

Shirt is a good idea, but maybe for people who commit to a 12 month subscription... I worry the 'everyone is awesome' trust you have might bite you in the bottom

I would rather pay once a year and not really bothered about receiving anything in return as the sight gives me everything

Not too fussed on the payment options as I'm happy either way but a vest would be nice as I now have 3 Fetch shirts but no vest

Couldn't there be both options. I would also prefer to pay once a year rather than have a monthly payment.

I think I'd prefer the once a year option too. I agree the trust thing is a lovely thought, but people might take advantage of it. The way around it might be to say a shirt after a certain number of months subscribing.

I'd prefer pay monthly... mug or water bottle would be used.

I prefer the annual option, thank you

I'd rather have annual as well. Didn't much like the last teeshirt (sorry!) or the other things. A vest might be nice, or a mug? I'll support whatever though, don't necessarily want anything in return.

Annual option without a reward for me please. An option for 5% off in the shop for subscribers might be useful.

I'd prefer to pay once a year, but I'm really not fussed about getting anything in return except the site.

I'm happy with monthly or annual. Goodies? It's the thought that counts - the gesture. I'd be very happy to pay without goodies; I don't go into a shop to buy something and expect a bag of random stuff for free.

Don't get me wrong because I lurve love this website but £5 a month = £60 a year 😳😳🤔😳, that's quite a lot for a free website

I liked the pin badge and have it on my coat. Car sticker didn't stick I'd like annual subscription and technical shirt. Or a pastie pillow.

annual works best for me as well.....not too fused about a 'freebie' but with winter coming up what about a hat or buff ?

Buffs are a good idea.

I think a fetch cap would be a great idea, that way you could spot fetchies who are wearing club vests I'd prefer annual as well.

Crikey, the years just flee past, don't they?!

I'd like to pay annually. I don't need any more Fetch tech gear (3 t-shirts and 3 vests, so far) unless you're going to sort out some more cycling tops (hint, hint). I could go a 'normal' cotton t-shirt or, as others have said, I'd make a lot of use of a mug or a bidon bottle.

Will you be contacting us when we're actually due?

As Linds said, please don't faff about with the .99 business. Personally I'd go for annual but monthly is fine if that suits the business better. A cap/buff/arm-warmers/socks (choice of) would be lovely but not really necessary. Are you going to re-visit the notion of Fetch being a free website? It wouldn't be unreasonable to make it fully a subscription site, IMO.

Please don't just trust people Most people here are lovely, but all it needs is one bad 'un to promote playing the system to get free/super-cheap stuff and you're running at a loss.

Maybe if people were to go for the pay monthly option, they could (if they wish) build up credits towards a 'free' gift (get a credit each month they pay in, once they get 12 they qualify for a mug/t-shirt/hand-stitched owl with FehootchEveryone on it's crest...

Annual and no goodies is my preference.

Annual probably easier for me. My Fetch stuff is all to big now so maybe just a little discount in the shop would be nice since I need to watch my pennies.

Pie of the Month Club. Wrong website?

Fetch Everyone shorts. Got loads of t shirts.

Annual for me please - long sleeve shirt, Capri tights, sprinter shots, running cap, buff, mug freebie but will go with majority 😊

Fetch branded top hat and monacle for me

Please keep a "once a year" option. That's what my running club does and it somehow feels more like a proper membership rather than a contribution.

I don't mind, I'll pay either way

Could you have an opt out tick-box for the goodies - I don't really want a pin or car sticker, but some of the other suggestions (eg cap or shorts, discount in the shop) sound great.

Happy to pay for this lovely place, don't really have a preference for monthly or annual, don't mind at all about getting anything extra, but can I just say how much I loved the last top? The red side panels made it really flattering and it's one of only a few I'm happy wearing

I like JK's idea about building up credits for the goodies on the monthly subs so people can't cheat the system...

Annual, prefer 'gift' to discount, donation to include FERC membership?

I like the idea of a Fetch cap too.
A practical way of avoiding potential abuse (i.e. signing up to get a shirt but cancelling a couple of months in) is to have a points system - 1 pt p/m for the £1.99 option, 2 pts for the £2.99 option etc. You could allow users to build up credits to spend on a range of gifts or in the Fetch shop? It is more labour intensive for you and you may need to create a wider range of goodies. Credit could also be used toward FERC renewals too. Food for thought.

I vote for annual......and i really really really need a cap (but failing that a shirt or vest or pantaloons)

I prefer the annual contribution.
I wouldn't wear a cap but a T shirt or vest would be nice.
I have the Fetch car sticker in my car so look out for me folks. 😃

I prefer annual as well. Not really interested in any goodies!

I prefer annual contribution and please skip the .99, a cap would be great for spotting other fetchies if you decide to do gifts

I'd rather do annual, but will go either way (fnar!) No goodies required for me (as prev stated). Muchos luck with it all. G

love the idea of a regular 4.99 - which is very little really and I could do with another piece of clothing as at the moment and since *they* stopped giving away t-shirts after races and started giving you Tec T's - I have nothing to wear (did buy a new star wars t shirt the other day)

I'm happy to stick to annual and my Fetch cap could do with replacing or a mug would be nice!

fetch sleeves!

Annual - hat or mug would get used. My car sticker is on the top tube of my bike.

Please stick with real money numbers (£2, £3 and £5 say), and agree with the idea of building up 'credits' for a subscriber store. After 10 or 12 months a T shirt or vest should be the right level for a £5 a month donation. It does mean though that the other levels also eventually get a reward.

This also means people can pick their reward e.g. after 4 months a mug, or after 15 a long sleeve top (assuming £5 a month). This seems the best solution to people who don't want anything, but also to those that do, but differ on what it would be nice to have!

Monthly would be better for me than annual. I don't need a prize for subscribing. Maybe a subscribers badge in the badge game? I love a badge me.

I'm in innit